NavyChief

From what ive read is that gh/igf-1 can speed up cancer and tumor growth. It causes proliferation of all cells and doesnt discriminate if they're cancer cells. The theory is that gh actually keeps the cancer cells alive instead of allowing them to die off like they're supposed to.

 

@navy chef-thanks for the reply. What are your friends stats if you dont mind my asking...?

First I will say I am not any more up to date on the cancer and tumor growth part of this than what you can and have read already. If you think its even a possibility and you are prone to cancer because of family history then stay away with out question bro. Not a good risk to take for any reason. I don't care how good you look as a body builder when you are dying because of what you took.

My buddy is short at 5'5" and runs 220-225lbs off contest and stays in single digit body fat. Competes now at 202-205 and gets shredded like no ones business.

If you are not going to compete and you are under 40 no need. You can get there with AAS only.

kbordner is correct. You can get there with aas. The fact is a shit load of cardio and proper diet will get you to the condition you want to be in. AAS will assist and make you harder, stronger ect. Fact is I have a very close buddy and old workout partner who is pro and has NEVER used hgh. He does quite well and has won many many national contests prior to going pro and has done incredible as a pro on just aas and a superior diet and training program.

agreed. the whole way thru the thread im thinking "what if shes a pro bber". Thats what it takes so why all the hate?

WHY? really,,, Because a nice physique can be obtained with var and hgh or maybe even a cpl other mild aas like primo or winny ect. maybe even some easier test's that are not going to turn HER into a HE. If she is pro or trying to get there then they both already know the answer and what it takes to get to that level. Yes tren may be an answer/option for that level, but honestly IMHO if your at that level you are not asking what we think about it. Your giving the advice to others on what is best and will get you to the level you have already achieved, been there done that kinda advice, that's why gents. But it all goes back to what the majority here has made blatantly obvious, she takes tren, the penis shows up, the hair falls out, the voice goes all fuckin john wayne and ole boy is now married to a chick with a dick. hope that answers WHY...

additionally here is the last sentence of the first post from this dude:

(So if she reads posts on here as to how bad the sides are, maybe, just maybe, she will not take tren. I have and im scared to use tren cause it did a mental number...........)

all the hate as you put it was also honest bad side effects that HE wanted her to see and realize would happen. He asked for us to let his girl know wtf was going to happen and make sure she didn't take the stuff because he knows better. Does that help answer the why all the hate now???

On that note i have to make a comment to get me post count up. Bring on the boobies! Only about 1600 more posts to go!

rai080 Ill make an exception for you.

Welcome to AB!!

 

 

 

I read somewhere that you don't mind if members take, and that you actually provide new members with, a looksee?

Not new members Ben, only old members with at least 2000 posts get to see her tits. LOL

If you are using Mcafee Security Suite (or the ATT Internet Security Suite powered by Mcafee), you need to do the following:

1. Bring up the McAfee Security Center (double-click icon in lower right of screen)

2. Click on Email & IM protected icon and then click on Configure to change option on the right.

3. Under E-Mail protection is enabled .... click the dot to Off (from On). This allows the e-mail protect automatically scans ...etc. This is because the Yahoo/ATT email software is incorporated with Norton's on the website. With the McAfee software engaged on the local PC, they are "combating" each other resulting in the downloading problem.

4. You will then receive a message from the Mcafee software stating they your computer IS NOT fully protected, when in fact it is. You've just allowed the Yahoo/ATT Norton software to scan the attachment during the download instead of the McAfee.

5. You will then find that going back to your email downloads that everything will function as designed. I am sure this is the same thing that is happening with the other antivirus software (Trend Micro, etc ) installed on any local PC.

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Chief

Go into Virus Controls; then Protection Against Viruses; click on Settings and uncheck the box that says "Threats in Web mail attachments". Yahoo uses Norton antivirus to download attachments. In most cases you can't have two virus protections "running" at the same time and most likely your system has something else running like Norton, AVG or McAfee.

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Chief

Welcome. The only thing fake here are my wifes tits bro. everything else is the real deal.

Looks like the one common thing here is a loofa sponge. I have not tried that but will buy one today and scrub my cheeks. LOL. kyleb, those little red things are exactly what I have. None are big enough to have real texture but they annoy the fuck out of me. Thank goodness they are covered by just shorts and I have no others anywhere else. I don't like to see them either let alone the hotties all over having to look.

suchagentleman: I am switching out one test to add mast. next week. cant wait to try it as its a first.

MYO, thx for all the advice. That's exactly what I needed, bullet points laid out with clear direction. Appreciate ya'll.

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Chief

MYO, im going to try to change the drawers after breakfast lunch and dinner. I didn't realize wearing the same drawers Monday thru Friday would cause these. LOL

Brothers, starting to have an a lot of ass acne going on and slightly down the back of my thigh a little. I know this is from the oil based I am using and need to know if there is a way to get rid of this or to minimize the acne associated with test oils. Been switching it up regularly to delts, thighs and glute injections but only area that I have the friggin acne is on the back of my ass. :mad:

glad to see shes thinking straight. It's one thing to read about it, but it's another to actually have it happen. You should have her join the board so she can read about this shit and ask advice. I believe there are a few women on here, more are always welcome.

excellent advice.

First, of all she insists on using and injects herself. She has done tons of research and is aware of pros and cons. But after reading advic3 from you guys, she has decided to drop the tren and stick with primo only. Thanks for the inputs.

Seriously dude, I am glad you showed her these replies. Sometimes it takes someone else to point out what we really don't want to see about ourselves. Good choice to NOT take the I want to be a man AAS. Now go buy her some var and feed them to her with breakfast every day, she will thank you every night you lover boy you....

Fill her tren bottle with primo when she isn't looking lol

Now this is actually a good idea.

Hey ya'll maybe we aren't giving ImALover a fair shake. Ya know not everyone has our same sexual preference. I knew a dude who was married and had 2 kids then decided he was gay and divorced and married another dude. Maybe this guy wants to be married to another guy and we are bashing him for his choice to be gay... Lets show some compassion and let him turn his woman into another man with a huge dick, I mean clit so he can be the lover he always wanted to be. After all TREN is cheaper than a sex change. BAH HAHAHAHAHHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

i can't believe how bad this thread pissed me of! I was thinking the same as detroit flash, but was hoping you weren't that fucking stupid. Navychief just listed all the reason not to use harsh aas. You mentioned that her hair is falling out after a day! Has she used aas in the past. I bet this was your great idea and you told her tren will get her ripped. Wtf i feel like members like you should be banned, but then you'll probably run wild fucking up other peolpes lives with no source of knowledge. fucking stupid people piss me off!![/quote]

 

amen to that brother...

I'm not a big book reader but I would read bens book.lol

Ill read it if there are lots of pictures in it.

Sounds like a common response here doesn't it, TREN is NOT a good choice for women. That is unless they wear the pants in the family. ImALover you may want to rethink or help her to rethink this decision asap before she becomes a he and you are explaining why you are married to a dude to your buddies. rai080 is spot on bro. Get her some damn HGH and Var asap and get her off the tren before irreversible damage is done. ( that is unless you actually enjoy a woman with a clit bigger than the average dick and a voice to make john wayne look feminine.) See below pasted comments about var for women;

All anabolic androgenic steroids carry with them possible side-effects and each one carries a specific level of probability. Just because a particular steroid has possible side-effects does not mean it will occur any more than it means the side-effects of Aspirin will occur; it simply means there is a chance; luckily, as it pertains to Oxandrolone the probability is low. This is one of the primary reasons Anavar for women is so highly desired as it is one of the few anabolic steroids they can use effectively without nasty side-effects. The most common and worrisome side-effects of anabolic steroid use in the female user is always virilization as such effects can cause a deepening of the vocal chords, body-hair growth and even clitoral enlargement. Such effects can be devastating to a woman as they attack her very nature and while they are still a concern here, if used properly there is hardly a woman out there who will have any need for worry at all. If doses and total duration of use is kept in a responsible manner most all women will only experience positive results

Here is some information on Egrifta from Serono: http://www.drugs.com/newdrugs/fda-approves-egrifta-tesamorelin-first-only-reduction-excess-abdominal-fat-hiv-infected-patients-2401.html

 

 

And of course it has to be just for HIV patients. Heaven forbid if anyone else wanted to use it.

Thanks for the link, great reading. Didn't even know this was in existence. I am starting to think Ben is a genius with a medical degree (dude has mad amounts of knowledge.) Either that or the same gay dudes getting rid of kits are fat and giving Ben their Egrifta also.

cut and pasted from TheExperiments link: short version:

About Egrifta

Egrifta (tesamorelin for injection) is a synthetic analogue of growth hormone releasing factor (GRF), shown to reduce visceral fat in HIV-infected patients with excess abdominal fat associated with lipodystrophy. GRF is a hypothalamic peptide that acts on the pituitary cells in the brain to stimulate the synthesis and release of endogenous growth hormone.

Maybe the guy is really guy and he wants to look at you. Ask him if he has aids and a script for gh lol.

Rai080, now that is some funny shit.

Welcome to AB. Stick around a bit and you will never want to go back to GH15. This is by far the best site out there anywhere,,, enjoy

Gentleman, not sure if this matters at all with lack of availability of finaplix, but yesterday I bought chicken feed at Southern States where I live and asked about the finaplix-H pellets and the dude said didn't have them but looked in his system and said yes we can order them. It was 63$ for 20. 2 days arrival time. I pick them up tomorrow. Not sure if ya'll have a southern states around but its a good shot right now and a bunch cheaper than the few left on amazon.

LMAO. This is great stuff. many yrs ago I was a 19yrs old, young sailor in Victoria Canada at an Irish pub. Some 40 yr old plus dude and his wife bought me drinks for 2 hours, then invited me home to spank his wife's ass. I've been a fucked up sexual freak ever since. Go spank her ass bro and make her beg for more. Just tell him no pics and don't fucking move from the chair in the corner where you belong... Don't forget 4 position minimum required when making her squeal. If you do, please make her say my name once too. LOL

Welcome to AB. Sounds like a good friend to send you here. But WTF is he on another site when this one is by far the best?? LOL. Enjoy the forum, you wont be disappointed.

Welcome aboard bro. You wont find a better site for what you just said, knowledge and info sharing and no holds barred, no BS conversation. If you cant find the answer here on what you want to learn from a post or members, it doesn't exist...

You picked the best place to be bro, welcome.