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CBL, clearksypharmacy, and RUI products. In that order.

800mg is cool but not a huge jump from 500-600mg, unlike tren or winstrol where 100mg daily to 150-200mg daily is a whole different level.

800mg mast compared to 600mg is a bit more dryness, and a bigger chance to go flat. Aggression is also noticeable... 400-600mg mast I'm just in a good mood. 800mg is a good mood but I'm down for violence lol.

Growth hormone and tren.... quickest results in the mirror for tren and gh is like the expansion pack.... you can't even play on that level without it in your bloodstream. Eat semi decent, hard to grow muscles (calves, forearms) grow and you look 20lbs bigger. Hgh is the difference between "wow, he's big and lean!" To jaw dropping wtf, photoshop exists in real life big and lean.

Accutane and blue heart dbol get honorable mentions.

I'd say you bought a test booster from GNC and act ignorant.

Way better than admitting to hormone use.

Read the first and last two pages. Can't be fucked to read another 20 pages of people calling each other morons and faggots...

Just came in here to say anyone can be huge and/or lean.

Genetics is essentially:

Muscle shape/insertions

How much shit can you take without fucking up your organs?

I don't believe in hyper responders. If someone could turn pro on a gram of gear and everyone else needs 5+ grams plus hgh and insulin, then that guy who uses a gram of gear is retarded for not using 5g of gear + hgh and slin and thrashing every single other person on stage.

That being said, there are many roads to Rome. Some people can do something like 700mg test, tren and masteron each with some anadrol, and keep fullness, their hairline, and not look overly stringy and flat.

The next guy might be a moody dickhead on that much tren, flattens out easily and loses hair on that much masteron, liver can't handle high doses of drol, etc. so his stack looks like 1.4g test, 350 mast prop, 100mg winstrol and proviron, and uses 2mg arimidex daily to remove the water from the extra test.

Anyone can be huge and shredded, it really comes down to what drugs work well for your body. "Muh genetics" is just an excuse to hide behind or blame shit on.

Any oral can kill appetite because of liver stress. Get some tudca to keep liver values in range and you shouldn't lose your appetite.

Or just go without orals, spread the doses out, etc. few different ways around this.

Boldenone can also increase appetite, but idk how prone you are to anxiety and high blood pressure. Eq is a love it or hate it drug, don't hear many people in the middle.

It'll work but I'd be worried about the appetite suppression from anadrol.

If anadrol doesn't kill your appetite then go for it.

theres no magic number of any compound....you start low and see how it works and adjust...bigfoot can run 300test and make gains, thast fucking awesome!, i wish that was me, im 6'3 265 and im not the best responder either, if i wanted to grow from just test id need 700mg

This is what I was getting at. If someone can grow off 300-400mg of test and a tiny bit of another drug, then I'm jealous, they're blessed.

It (generally) requires a certain dose to reach certain stats. If someone over 6' can get to 240lbs+ with minimal gear then that's great, but most of us need 750-1g test minimum to hit those stats. Already assuming we're eating 3500-4000cals, 220+ grams of protein daily and training correctly...

More is not better. The low doses are just fine for the average gym rat. Why risk your health for absolutely nothing. Most people that run high doses do so to make up for a poor diet and training. 3-400mgs is all the test you need. If you're diet is spot on you can achieve great results.

I see what you're saying and I'd like to spend pennies on cycles, have perfect health and run a gram of gear with a few iu's of gh. I think you can look good on what he's mentioned but as far as growing to be ~220-240lbs cut like diamonds I'm skeptical.

There's many national competitors that do have their diet on point, train correctly and still use a gram or two of test with half a gram of another compound or two weekly.

But makes me curious what your protein and calorie intake look like and what kind of cycles you run.

Generally agree with all these cycles.

Not sure why you recommend only 400mg equipoise though.

Test prop at 125mg eod also seems low at 437mg ew. Usually see best results around 750-1gram test.

Doses also seem relatively low, an advanced simple cycle I've run an enjoy is

750-1g test enan/cyp/sust ew

350mg-500mg npp or tren ace ew

.5mg arimidex eod to daily

So while we're arguing about how esters effect when drugs kick in and using tne preworkout...

Anyone use tne before their woman comes over? Def recommend to others.

A cc of test with 800-1000mg eq gives me anxiety.

750-1g test and 600mg eq works much better and the look is just as good with zero anxiety.

Hard to say...

Ran 350 sust + 600 deca + 50mg Proviron everyday and never had a problem.

But I've also ran no test with a g of mast and 100mg anadrol ed and had low estro symptoms.

Ran 800 eq and 450 deca every week and ran into problems after a month of no test, but 500mg sust fixed it within a day or two.

Recently ran 1g of tren ace and a gram of mast prop all October with absolutely no problem (but ran test cyp for a good 3-4months before hand), so leftover ester could have prevented dick problems...

Verdict is everyone's different, some guys manage 1200 deca and 250 test no problem, but I'd reccommend at least a 1:1 ratio of test to other drugs.

There can be fluid leftover even if e2 and prolactin is in check. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Also, I believe anadrol can stimulate the progesterone receptor even though the binding affinity is very weak and it doesn't aromatize.

if receptor saturation existed trt would stop working....the same dose used is eventually not going to put any more size on you....you want to grow more you have to up the dosage

What are your thoughts on cruising and sensitivity/tolerance/myostatin?

Do you believe you could permanently blast, let's say 1g test with 600mg deca, and assuming blood work is fine there is no reason to cruise?

And if you stall it's because you "grew into your dose" rather than your receptors became over saturated/lost sensitivity? You need to up the dose to grow more?

Var and winny is a good combo.

I really like anadrol and winstrol, 1:1 ratio. Halo for bonus points.

Not an oral combo but superdrol compliments tren+mast very well. Water in all the right places, dry and full af.

thats not true for everyone.Guy run low test high deca or low test high tren with no problems

Agreed. I've run 350 test with 600 deca and some proviron and was fine. Same with 200 test and 500-700 tren. It did eventually catch up to me though. Generally I like a 2:1 ratio for test to other drugs.

I'm curious-how many of you would recommend aromasin over adex in my case?

It's better on paper (minus cost) but I've only used adex for a month ish, compared to spot treatment of asin over the last year, because it kills aromatizes enzymes, instead of neutralizing them.

Not a huge fan of AIs

What is the dosing scheme you fellas would recommend for aromasin? Say standard cycle, at least 8, up to 16 weeks?

Depends on you and what you're running. On 750 test, 350 tren I usually use 12.5mg 2-3x a week of aromasin. I only need an ai if I add a 19nor.

Use aromasin personally as I have a huge stash of raws. Been told that adex will keep you drier though. Idk how much the igf1 drop effects things badly. I know plenty of people who only use adex because it's cheaper/easier to get. They also swear it's stronger no keeps you drier. Then again I know a handful of people who use nolvadex only and letro for contest prep, no ai otherwise.

Good to see a positive study that doesn't demonize hormones.

Thought I was craziness that there were plenty of studies saying trt can negatively affect health yet there's plenty of guys running 200mg test every week on a cruise with nothing bad to say. Especially considering many who jump on trt don't exercise, are overweight, already balding, etc. Hmm...

Give oral accutane a try. Don't use high doses though, like 1mg per kg of body weight like doctors prescribe.

My skin got fucked by tren e about a year and a half ago, like hurt when I got hugged, would wake up with blood on my sheets from acne popping.

10mg a day helped clear it up, and my skin stays clear with 10mg twice a week if needed.

See this thread went a bit off topic lol.

Usually depends on your environment, but something outside (museums have a possibility of boredom imo) hiking, pool, beach, hot springs. swim talk relax, bring her back to your place and cook her dinner. Secured many bangs using that double play.

^this. I'm interested in seeing blood work.

Also, for you guys they've been on for 5+ years, how long did it take for esters to clear and what did your blood work look like 2-3months after being off?

I love tren but can't handle the sides anymore with young girls, I would want to beat them constantly on tren lol

 

Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it.

Lmfao.. Ran 600mg tren ace earlier this year and was such a dick to my 18yo gf at the time.