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I love Tren. It is the best compound in the world. Skin for me is fine, no hair loss, none of the physical shitty sides. Just the desire to put my penis mostly anywhere warm n wet, and a much shorter fuse.

I love tren too! It does weather me and make my skin look old. But I’m usually so good looking at that point it doesn’t matter what my face looks like. Put a paper bag over my head and I’m perfect! My dick goes anywhere on tren too. It’s horrible...

I don't know man.. I only use those hardeners when I cut which is usually 1 x year. 300mg masterone makes drastic difference in my physique almost instantly. as I'm getting older, I don't like the look masterone or tren(haven't touched it in yrs), makes my skin look older with too much veins.

Yea mast is always a nice little touch for cutting. Makes a world of difference. I can’t say I ever felt anything off it because I’m usually on several things at that point. You don’t like that tren look huh? Look like a dried up veiny cock skin haha

In 30 shows I’ve always considered masteron E or even p to be weak as hell, is it maybe the quality I’m getting or is it just a weak compound in general? 300-700mg felt zero different as well

You really shouldn’t “feel” anything on it. It makes drugs work better by reducing aromatization. High testosterone is useless without masteron or Proviron. It will help give you a drier harder look as well

Any intricate training differences you'd have for a client between Men's Physique & Classic Physique?

With me no. Everyone gets a cookie cutter training program from me. It’s designed to hit all the groups. I tell people if they want to add things they like go ahead. I find training is so personal and people like different things. I can go to the gym one day and just not feel the weight and will have to change it up. But I do recommend people lift heavy all the way through. Light weight doesn’t build muscle. I don’t care what studies say about hypertrophy workouts. I never seen a Mr. Olympia using reps with lighter weight.

Doesn't SD "put" the water & Glycogen where you want it..?

 

In the muscle, so as to not have that "spilled-over" look.

 

That's what I've always thought, oral SD is way harsher, I prefer inj, and it (oral mainly ) makes me very lethargic.

 

I missed my exit, or rather in the rain driving into work, for some reason I felt as though I was going to nod off, & when I shook it off , I found myself exiting to go the other way , had to go over the over pass & get myself back on course. I've ran it & strength is Def there (& big time Vaskey ) like you said. But damn, the lethargy.

 

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Injectable, oral, it’s all taxing. It does help I think clean someone up. A more polished look. But I’ve been in the industry for well over 1 years as an athlete and coach I don’t k is or have heard of any top athletes using it. I tried it on myself because of the hype it was getting. Honestly wasn’t worth the hype for the sides and risk. Diet harder and don’t over carb during the carb up and you won’t need it.

What's your advice for a guy knowing he needs to tone it down. I'm 37, I don't need to bulk, at all, I'm pretty big. However I'm noticing gear taxing my body more. I'm used to a gram of test or 2 grams, plus goodies. Deca, dbol etc

 

Now I want something I can maintain and feel healthy on. What say you?

This is something mentally you’re going to have to deal with if you want to tone it down. 37 isn’t that old to be honest. Plenty of guys still cranking. Stay away from harsh stuff that gives you aide effects. Everyone always says drop tren. If tren isn’t bothering you then why drop it. I know more people that have problems on deca than I do tren. Test primo anavar gh are always super safe options. Plenty out there for you if you have the mass

Thoughts on superdrol for prep last few weeks? I know mike Arnold preaches it but I don’t know many if any top coaches doing that

Personally I used it for peaking the last two weeks. IMO not worth the toxicity while running halo and winny. Does help with vascularity but shows aren’t won on vascularity so that’s why I wouldn’t use it for a show. I personally would never advise a client to do it either.

Been quiet here lately. Where’s everyone’s questions???

You big old ripped up bastard!! Mast & proviron has replaced tren for me & I really like it much better tbh!!

A lot of big old ripped up bastards on here huh???

30 ml jug on the tren, mast, test?! Holy sheet!

I call it the men’s physique stack. One bottle per prep hahaha. But in reality I came up with this blend when I was in prep shooting 3cc into my lean ass muscles. It was like putting a pin in stone and it hurt like a mother fucker. This is 3cc in one that will go through a slin pin. So nice in prep.

Not sure about the Igf- thing, but there are alot of other positive attributes to Metformin, insulin sensitivity (helod with that if you cye between the two, ( in other words if using slin after (during an off time ) not together I think I should dangerous.

 

Or by itsf eating a bunch of carbs (clean ) you can stay full looking most of the time, so e run it a tab a day , or a birthday more for up to a year & make decent gains /fullness .

 

I guess lije anything else there is going to be mis-information ,=and opposition, but if you do some looking there are also allegedly life extension properties to it's use as well, maybe a fee. School of thought's in the matter.

Ive seen the pros and cons from it. I honestly don’t like it. I think if you’re going to have a cheat meal off season you have the cheat meal. This will inhibit IGF slightly. But why would you want to inhibit IGF during your offseason. If you’re in prep having a cheat New you’re so sensitive you don’t need it. And if you do need it, you shouldn’t be having a cheat meal. That’s how I look at it.

Doesn’t this inhibit the production of igf-1?

 

So I don’t see how it could be beneficial, to bodybuilding

 

 

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I personally don’t like it. It does lower IGF. It is still widely used in BB. I did a custom order for someone and grabbed some extra if anyone does use it.

Nah, not at all..! 200 mg /ml , I've had 225 mg but it

crashes pretty good at that dose. You may be thinking of

bold prop, or base..?

Man I don’t know. All I hear is horror stories on how painful it is. I probably wouldn’t have a problem with it but it’s sometbing I’d have to play with before releasing.

Probably the biggest difference, & that's all in my opinion is the speed of entry into the bloodstream. It's faster than reg EQ, & some (not I ) allegedly get anxiety.. so if the case

Or any other potential sides ( BP too ) , they're diminish quicker when stopped if necessary. But at the same token , kicks in a bit quicker too, rather than waiting for BU to.

 

I liken it to the same concept as running "some" Deca,

along with Fast Deca ( NPP ) same idea. But the same

positive attributes are there veiny & grainy appetite and

endurance

Did some research on it. I’ve heard it’s pretty painful. What mg/ml were you using?

Id grab some from ya too ..!! I Love Bold Cyp. 200mg/ml is perfect, I stack it with 600 mg reg EQ , & usually run a gram a week or 1200 combo 400. Cyp to kick it off til

Undec kicks in, but concurrently like 400-500 BC & rest EQ

 

I perfectly understand not wanting to carry something &

make up a bunch & it not sell, but I believe you'll find a handful of Brother's right here that would want it, besides

AC & myself.

 

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I’ve personally never used it. I’m not opposed to carrying products that people want as long as there is a demand for them. What does it do as opposed to normally EQ?

Hey bro can you get your hands on Boldenone cypionate?

 

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I can get my hands on pretty much anything. If you’re looking for a custom order shoot me a DM. That’s something I typically wouldn’t carry in stock because there’s not much of a demand for it.

Liking my results so far. Strength going up and def leaning out. Will be getting bloods next week.

Glad to hear it bro!

Any eta on the primo?

Hey John your box is full. Just letting you know I've ordered Primo and its on the way.

So do you mostly only work in the Bodybuilding field?

I have been trying to get a pre strongman comp cycle dialed in. I have tried it twice now and both felt less then ideal on the day of the contest.

Honestly my first meet cycle was less gear by far and I felt more strength and aggression from it.

Any experience with PL or Strongman cycle set ups?

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So do you mostly only work in the Bodybuilding field?

I have been trying to get a pre strongman comp cycle dialed in. I have tried it twice now and both felt less then ideal on the day of the contest.

Honestly my first meet cycle was less gear by far and I felt more strength and aggression from it.

Any experience with PL or Strongman cycle set ups?

To be completely honest I have no experience with any PL stuff. I know one guy that competes but I haven’t talked to him in probably 3yrs. Last when I talked to him he was doing injectable m tren and lots of anadrol right up to the day of the show. He said he always felt like crap and that his head was gonna explode. I’m like mmmmmmm kkkkkk. I can try and find someone for you that does PL coaching if you’d like?

Sell ya some...! Lol..! Okay, free gear it is...

 

A bottle or two of something exotic , and I'll throw in a pair of used posing trunks... (Hers, not mine..) lol.. yes, she is sharp.

 

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She’s peeled. I see a lot of nolvadex there!

If Bumstead only had better arms.. everything else is there. Big fan of Cbum. Great ambassador for the sport of bodybuildling! Logan has an awesome physique, but it isn't what comes to mind when I think of classic. Curious to see how he places at the Olympia.

I think Logan is only qualified for MP Olympia unless he gets a special invite.

Brandon H was damn near as big as Bumstead when I saw them in Chicago last summer. Big dudes for sure.

Top men’s physique guys are not playing. A friend of mine has won some top tier shows and is qualified again for this year Olympia already. He’s chilled right now peeled at 220lbs. Logan Franklin has size on him too. Bumstead is a beast. Def have a man crush on him

Yep..! yep, may "not" be off-season, but got it going on..!

 

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Will give free gear to her for nudes

You seem pretty well ingrained in the competing community. That's cool. I still go to my local show every year. Guys, if you like feminine chicks with muscle, Kasia Topor. Find an off season photo. Maybe it's because I was standing right next to her, but good God those legs were incredible.

Yea I like competing and supporting my local NPC. Everyone should because without it we wouldn’t have such a platform and people to look up to.