muscle96ss

I've never said run uncle z. In fact, don't. You like what you're running, I like what im running. No reason to be hostile. I put his name in my thread title because he's my sponsor. I said you can change it. Jeez

You still didn't answer the question!

Why are you so deadest on continuing to post on a board where the majority of its members have shown no interest in your log and where you seem to dislike the majority of the members? I am being serious, so no need for a smart ass remark.

Apparently Im your excitement of the day which is really fucking sad. I haven't seen a good post from you on this board. Stay out of my thread until you are big enough to sit at the adults table pussy

Size has nothing to do with intelligence, as clearly demonstrated by your posts. By the way, this old man would put you to shame, so quit acting like your so big and bad.

Well that's not me. He just sponsored my run

Yeah, and you post on every board about it in Uncle Z's sponsor threads. Fucking ignorant moron, I cannot still believe you are here!! You could care less about anybody else as you just proved by your answer. You are only here to promote Uncle Z.

You're 20 years old right? I've only been lifting a hair over 3 years to get this physique so I must know something. And your statement is a lie. I've only been sponsored since January. Lets see your physique. Lets see your workout and diet plan. I've done nothing wrong but waste time with you

I am older than you and the fact that you know nothing about me proves my point. You have been a member of Professional Muscle for over 2 years and have no idea who I am. I am not trying to be arrogant or cocky, but I find it hard for someone to be a member there for 2 years an not know who I am. It only proves that you don't even read the various threads on the boards or anything other than the Uncle Z section as that is all that you care about.

One more thing, you keep saying that you are only here to share information and act as if you are doing nothing wrong. I am familiar with you from Professional Muscle. In the 2 years you have been a member there, 99% of your posts are in Uncle Z's threads. You have posted or shared absolutely nothing other than in your promotions for Uncle Z(whom you clearly state you are not a rep of shill for). I sincerely doubt that you will offer anything different or useful here as well.

I came here from a recommendation of a friend on phf. Do you lift?

And its a great board as you have heard correctly. One of the reasons its so great is that there is not a lot of censorship and people are brutally honest and not afraid to speak their minds. You also have a lot of veterans who have been around a lot of boards for many years and are smart enough to see through people's agendas and motives. I would recommend sitting back and getting to know everyone first rather then jumping right in the way you did and posting a log for a source that has a horrendous reputation on this board.

Sponsored athlete moron

Seriously, whats the fucking difference? You also stated you are not a shill. The definition of a shill is " A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization.". I think its obvious who the actual moron and shit for brains is here!

Yes he sponsored my log.

Is that all you people on this board do is attack people. Are there any lifters here? Have you ran European Pharmacy? Obviously brains isn't one of your strong suits there, bub

So then you are a rep, why lie and try to deceive people? I mean you show up out of the blue and without knowing anyone on this board start promoting Uncle Z; whom is a known scammer. What kind of reception were you expecting?

If I did something wrong or against the rules, I truthfully wasn't intendinding to. I'm not a schill or rep. If my thread title needs to be changed, that's fine. Not trying to offend anyone. Just trying to be part of the community that a friend from another board said was a good place.

Really, you are not a rep for Uncle Z? Check out this thread on OLM, the title alone says it all(Spiny's Sponsored Uncle Z Log):

http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152988

Obviously credibility isn't one of your strong points!!

another thing is watching the building fall shocked people..It made a statement to fuck shit up on such a massive of scale

You mean to tell me that watching those planes hit the towers over and over again on television and watching this thing play out long before the building collapsed wasn't shocking enough?

Watch the videos of the towers collapsing. They imploded like if they were being demolitioned.

So if the building was demolitioned, what advantage or outcome does that provide? In other words what was the purpose? I mean you already have planes crashing into the building creating a huge fire(s) and many lives lost. So what does demolishing the building add to the scene that makes it worthwhile for our government to risk doing?

Are you guys that are suggesting a conspiracy theory saying that there were no Muslim terrorists or what are you suggesting. The reason that I ask is that my next door neighbors at the time were actually directly involved. It turned out we had a mini-cell in our apartment complex.

thin oil doesn't mean its 100% fake. Like lighter colored tren doesnt mean its not as potent as darker colored tren. Right?

 

Maybe those are fake in the video but just becuase one company used a thicker oil doesn't mean shit.

He's not talking about all primo in general, he is talking about the specific Bayer one's that a certain source is selling.

good to know,next time i buy choclate chip cookies ill check with you 1st

Please, go back to wherever you came from before today. Nobody here cares for your advice.

Looked yellow to me in person. These are pictures posted online remember. I still have halo pulled until this new batch of raw comes in. That's the best I can do unless the mods want otherwise.

It doesn't look anything like yellow in the pics posted. If you goto the lab testing section on Meso there are literally tons of threads with labmax tests and the pics posted. In addition there are a lot of pics on the labmax site as well. None of them have had any problems posting pictures where the color of the picture is something different than what they saw. So I don't understand how you don't have a picture that even closely resembles yellow. And if you are going to continue to contend that your halo tabs actually did pass the labmax, then the only explanation for JB's not passing labmax or ED would be selective scamming. I mean what other logical explanation do you have?

Theres a site on one forum named granabolic anyone have feed back on ordering there? Im just wanting some good hg

I have heard some of their shit is bunk. They guys over at Meso have done some bloodwork as well as there has been a mass spec of the human grade amps.

Nevermind my last post, didn't look at the pictures; definitely not yellow and definitely not a pass.

Nobody is getting different tabs, nobody. I will not repeat this again. I do not know and this is why it is still pulled from the list and I'm awaiting the new batch of halo. I'm going to test again and see if there is a color variation. If it's not halo then I have no clue what it is because people are getting the results of halo with it. Only thing I can think of is if the supplier has made a different form of halo. This is kind of what they do with bath salts. They'll change the chemical around and it'll work like a certain drug but won't test positive. Few months ago I was looking to make some lunesta sleep meds. My supp didn't carry it so I went searching for it. I had one supp that was offering me the cheaper version that was changed around at 1/10th the price. At least he was honest about it but I did not get any. So like I said this product is still pulled until infer the new raw and then we'll go from there.

Ok, so we have established that nobody is getting different tabs. Lets look at the facts here. You have halo tabs from both batches that test positive for halo on labmax. JB has tabs that test negative and he has done several tests and ED also came back negative. Therefore it obviously has nothing to do with the powders and their effect on the labmax. You appear to have halo in your tabs and JB somehow doesn't have halo in his tabs. Based on that info, the only possibility that I can think of is that the tabs were made incorrectly. Can you think of any other explanation that makes sense?

Yes. I tested the anavar first before the winstrol and it changed pretty fast because it was raw powder. The longer you let it sit the darker it gets. Right now they're both almost black.

Yes, you are supposed to let it sit for 15 minutes, thats how the anavar/winstrol test is performed. The picture of the anavar is definitely not how an anavar labmax should look; I know this from my own personal experience as well as the pics on the labmax site.

Halo tabs from batch 1 and batch 2. Left tab is batch 2 hence being smaller. Tab on right is batch 1 which is left over from my prep. [ATTACH=CONFIG]2615[/ATTACH]

So if you have halo tabs that are passing your labmax then how is it possible that tabs from the same batch failed JB's test and he stated he did it 3 times. The only possible explanation is that either someone is mailing them something different or the tabs are made incorrectly where the hormone isn't evenly distributed. How else would they fail a labmax and a mass spec?

Correct. Labmax is not 100% accurate. I trust ED results because they use a MS. That's the only official way to test a product. The only thing that is odd to me with ED is out of there whole entire website there has never been a test for halo except my product. Halo is one of the most faked and expensive products. Why would nobody send that in? There's practically 1000 anavar tests. Just weird to me

I don't understand how that even matters. ED has nothing to do with who or what people send in to them. Do you think they are just disposing or ignoring the people that are sending in halo samples? Its like you are looking for some way to discredit ED since you know that their MS data is pretty damning to your case. However, your attempt to discredit them doesn't even make any sense.

I hear u on the placebo effect for sure brother, if they hear one product is bunk then suddenly they think they got scammed, even if they didnt. Im saying numerous guys pm'd me previous to this being made public and were telling me shit didnt work. Most of these guys do not have any connection to eachother, and no reason to make it up, and since it happened previous to this tbread the placebo effect is not the case here. I understand u dont want to release confidential info about ur mailer/operation, I really do. But tbe fact that u guys do not see eachother or know eachother adds to the suspicion of ur mailer. I know it seems farfetched, but it certainly is possible that u send him a massive order of product (so he has it on hand to ship) and rather then ship goods he sells ur legit gear on his own and mails junk in ur name. He may even be a lab on another board for all u know brother, building a client base and his own credibility while destroying urs. I know it seems farfetched bud, but this wouldnt be the first time a mailer was also a scammer. And it would account for some guys getting goods and some getting bunk. Its just worth looking into brother, thats all. If u are truley innocent, then u need to consider all other posibilities.

This to me seems to make the most sense. Think about it, if you have 1 batch of viagra and some people are saying its bunk and some people are saying its legit; then something has to be going on between when the tabs are pressed and when they reach the customers hands. Thats the only logical explanation.

There is a lot of questions here and I'll do my best to answer them with out giving too much security info. The only thing I do basically in my op is make the tabs. I do not mail or package them. They are given to someone (not family) not even close to me and we never even see each other. There is no way for him to fake fake the tabs because he would need everything to make them. He has no reason to scam anyone and won't make anymore if he does. He's paid per order. I do have a small amount of each on hand for me personally or if something comes up and someone needs something quick. Like the time you were in a jam and I did it myself. The tool you were given said cagedfreak on it tool 50mg because I hand wrote it. Tbol was the only item I owed you for, you had already gotten your halo. Everyone is taking about how the quality of the tabs have changed since I've started. The thing is is that everyone is using the same exact batch of tabs from day 1 except halo and anavar. There is no two separate batches for selective scamming. Why would I scam JB as he was one of my best clients? Know what I mean? I think this is starting with the placebo effect now. Before I even opened as "tabman" I had a few ifbb and national level competitors legit try each and every product before I would even release one tablet. I gave out thousands of dollars worth of free product to make sure. I got nothing but great reviews, just like you had given. I think some people are having maybe different expectations to what a drug is going to do. Where as someone with a lot of experience may know what to expect, just like yourself. I don't know, this is just a guess at this point. People are now questioning even the C***** and clenbuterol. Thankfully someone like MU used both and was very impressed by both. I think being someone as versed as you in hormones knows that overuse of clen and other sims affects your adrenals. Once this happens you can sleep on anything. I too have been able to sleep on clen and ephedra from overuse. I don't do it anymore and learned my lesson from such. I take stims in moderation.

 

I'm just asking everyone to chill out please. I'm going to take care of anything if it isn't right, you have my word. I'm not walking away from anything. I apologize for being super defensive in the beginning but thats because I've been in this game a long time and I take it personally when someone bashes my product. I put a lot of time an effort into this biz that was once just a hobby so my friends and I had legit shit. I have not done anything knowingly wrong and never ever would. Let my supplier look into his and end I will be testing what I currently have asap.

Perhaps people can post pics of the tabs they are questioning and then you can tell by the detail whether they are correct or not. If everything you are saying is true, then it sounds like the remailer is the issue. My guess is that he is selling the correct tabs on his own and replacing them with something different that is bunk and sending them to your customers.

Bonus if you were banned from ProM :p

He was actually banned from ProM twice, lol!!