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I believe the dictator has injectable tbol 100mg/ml. He also has a few blend oils with inj tbol as well.

That sounds interesting, would that eliminate the liver toxicity of it?

I don't have a good answer for this one....so I'm reaching for a solution. what about 70mg npp w/ 30mg tren a per day? Decent strength and filled out without much water.

This sounds like a good mix, I just have to stop being a pussy and commit to pinning ED lol

Or just use tbol 4 on 4 off, which Is how I have run orals the past couple of years.

That also sounds like a pretty good idea, this didn't have much affect on your liver values?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think superdrol is about the same?

 

from BM

I've actually used superdrol as well, and I actually prefer T-Bol. SD makes me feel like crap and I don't get much from it. Plus I'm kindof looking for a non liver toxic Injectable that I can run for longer periods.

Greetings AB!

So basically my question is, for those of you who've used T-Bol, are the any Injectables that have similar results? T-Bol is by far my favorite oral, but being an oral, I can't run it forever, so I'm looking for something with similar results that I can run for longer. I'm

Open to anything.

Thanks in advance!

Unfortunately some of us were born with the damn fat gene, if I ate 8000 calories a day for an extended period of time I would be a 400 pound fat pig. I would love to eat more calories, because I know that's the one thing that's preventing me from getting as big as I want to be, but at the same time I want to look good and not feel like I did before I started working out and was a 300 pound fat ass.

I'm in the same boat brother. I know for me, at least off gear, upping calories means fat, not muscle most of the time for me. On gear...we'll see. I haven't been on in a while, but last time although I didn't lose fat, I ate like crazy and it went straight to muscle with especially no fat gain. Here's hoping that's how it works this time around.

Actually you should send all your gear to me so a proper determination can be made.:cool:

Lol nice try cigardave! Maybe next time brother!

They will be fine to use

Awesome. Thanks for the replies bro

If the vials have stayed sealed they're perfectly fine

So they should be good even if there's a few doses out as long as the seal isn't brother otherwise?

How's it going everyone?

Just a quick question, I have 2 20ml bottles of gear, one test e 250mg per ml, and one tren ace 100mg per ml, they both have maybe 4-5 mrs used out of them, been stored in a cool, dry clean area and haven't been moved. I got them in late 2014. The expiration on them is 7/16 and I got them from a reputable source here.

So my main question is, are they still useable? Are they relatively safe to use since they've been open this long? Just looking to use them up for the start of my cycle. Tomorrow most likely. I should have asked sooner but it didn't occur to me to ask until just now.

Any advice welcome everyone

I've also used Xcel Sports Lgd product and enjoyed it as well. Not sure if it's still available

I can also vouch for AAP as far as last years products go, I used their aromasin and caber as well as torem and clomid and didn't have any problems. This was early last year however

Welcome! Just like cigardave said, everyone here is very helpful, and it's a great place to learn

I've used the Nipro 25g 1.5 inch 3cc syringes and honestly they do seem pretty dull. I have some good legit pins and syringes from a hospital now and they make a huge difference.

Welcome man, lots of great guys here. Everyone's very helpful, there's lots to learn

Looking forward to seeing the gains brother!

Going to be running it on this upcoming cycle starting Feb 1. His prami/Adex has been spot on for me so I'm assuming it will be just as good mate

Awesome. Thanks for the heads up bro. I figured as much from What I've heard of his product, but it never hurts to ask anyways ha.

Anyone using CBLs aromasin right now? Thinking about picking some up and looking for reviews.

My go to bands:

Emmure

Chelsea Grin

The Acacia Strain

Thy Art Is Murder

Whitechapel

Upon A Burning Body

Born Of Osiris

Suicide Silence

Can't go wrong with any of that.

Funny story, we have a separate crossfit area at my gym that I like to go deadlift and squat at (better racks and bars) and there is a big speaker you can hook up to to play music. I'm blasting some Chealsea Grin: Lilith when this dude walks in, looks around, sees me lifting and hears the music, looks terrified and quickly walks away. Pretty good strategy if you don't like people getting in your way lol.

It's funny, I really think response to AAS is funny. Here's the thing, naturally I suck. I think 95% of men have better natural genes than me; I have long limbs, very high inserts, small bone density, and a very short torso. That is extremely difficult for bodybuilding. Under water weight body testing had me at 12% body fat, but to the average 12% body fat guy...I looked like twenty because my torso is kind of awkwardly short that my stomach always carried the weight. My arms, legs were skinny. My shoulders/neck/back were always broad and good. Chest was narrow and small.

 

My first cycle was under the guidance of prep trainer. It was low, 300 eq/300 test. I blew up. I think everyone blows up on their first cycle so I did not think much of it. My second cycle was 300 tren/300eq/150 test. That 750mg of steroids changed everything for me, I started to have an actual bodybuilding look. I went all out for a few months cycling to see what I could do. My response to steroids I'd have to say was in the top 5%. At least that's what I thought, but I realized who my chefs were....Strango, Daman(when he was out here), Defiant, dictator, alp and brinkman. Those sources. So I knew I had top notch gear. Others that I see running 2,3,4,5g I think to myself are they really running that much gear? How much of it is underdosed shit?

 

I'd like to see how many people look different switching sources. I recommend some of my buds this direction, they instantly noticed a change.

 

I think high doses are necessary for a competitive bodybuilder, I think for us gym rats it's be on a healthy dose for the most part but everyone has to peak and be on top of their game at sometimes. And in those instances, go hard.

This right here gives me a bit of hope haha. You sound like you're built just like me bro. I'm thinking (Hoping) this next cycle I'm running (with actually legit gear) is gonna make a big difference.

Thanks for your story, it's nice to know someone with a similar build to myself can get some real progress.

Awesome thread Chief, I never understood why some would say that some esters are more potent or had more side effects than others, as I always just understood esters to be the time it takes for the hormone to be released. Glad to see I wasn't too far off!

Great post again.

Lot of great info here guys, thanks!

I'll just be cautious with my Tren E dose this time around, and if I feel the sides are too much I'll either switch to ace or just run ace next time around.

I honestly want the aggression side a bit, my best workouts are always when I'm pissed off lol. I may try out halo down the road some time for that exact purpose.

You're completely right navy. I won't make any excuses, but up until recently my diet has been far from

Ideal. The only reason I'm not worse off is because my body does seem to hold on to muscle pretty well.

I'll take your advice and get something set up for me that will make a real difference. I'll probably run my cycle starting in a month or two, so I have time to make sure everything is dialed in.

Thanks again for taking the time to help out everyone.

PS: I would have switched to ace after hearing everyone's advice/experiences, but I already purchased my Tren E, so I'll just make as good a run with it as possible. I have a feeling it'll work out well nonetheless.

OP, my brother, I just read your original post and can tell you the bigger issue here is diet and not gear. You research and ask lots of good questions before sticking gear in your body and forget that its more important to do this for the food you put in your body. Time to get back to basics. Your a big fuckin dude, if you will learn to diet and lifestyle eat with as much enthusiasm as we all have for our gear, you will go much farther and look good and big as hell doing it.

 

Couple guys on here are great with diet and nutrition. If you truly want to do this right and kick its ass, pay someone who can line you out a diet specifically for you and the cycle you want.

Couple guys that are GODS in nutrition here are MU and Mega for examples. Ask them who they recommend you speak with regarding a legit diet for your specific body and goals. You wont regret it.

 

and BTW, looking again at your gear volume, those 3 sites are enough, but if you really want to pin each only 1 time per week, add in the pecs and bi's if you like.[ATTACH=CONFIG]2803[/ATTACH]

Any recommendations on diet? I wasn't sure how to work my calories on a cut with gear.

That's a lot of tren. Why run ace after you've been running tren e for 7 weeks?

Preload with your tren ace. Add in the trend slow. Pay attention as your levels rise. Fuckin tren E is not like doing tren ace. If it builds up to higher doses, and you don't kow how u will react to sides, like losing your fucking paranoid mind, as can happen, then it takes forever to clear it feels like. Tren ace is a good compound\ester. So is the tren E, but do not think u can run higher doses and keep building and not have different sides than u would with the ace, oraybe I should say, more profound sides.

Take the E slow, see how u feel. Back off if u start to get to much anxiety and just use the tren ace if so.

But should be fine if u watch how u feel.

 

And finish off with the ace. As u are clearing ur system u dont want tren E in there for several more weeks. ACE is the better ester in my own opinion, when it comes to tren.

I prefer caber over prami. Navy is absolutely right. I also prefer tren ace, ran 100mg ED once and was a sexual tyrannosaurus and blew the fuck up but had bad sweats and my cardio went to shit. Like navy said, start out slow with the e, probably 400 a week and see how you feel. take the caber .5 twice a week.

Damn you guys are making me wish I had just gotten more ace and toughed out the extra injects.

Oh well, there's always next time.

I'll pick up some caber then and run it as you specified. I did the same my last run and it seemed to do well.

Thanks again.