johnny

ya....my strength and recovery both improved but I had to take cialis be cause my erections became half ass.....I have never ran a full 10 week or longer cycle with a gram plus but I have upped my dose to 1200 enanthate before from week 8 to 14 when results seemed to taper off (could have just been in my head) but every time I bust a gram my libido seem to go south. Let me know how it goes for you.

Re: HCG Question

Originally posted by doodlebob

Do you guys think 5000iu's of HCG once every 5 days for 15 days is too much? I got the amps from Organon and I didn't know how to store it so I just figured shoot the whole amp at a time. Thanks for any input. DB

Just mix the liquid/powder and preload them at the desired dose. Then store them in the fridge but only mix one amp at a time. I have read that high doses of HCG can actually hinder your recovery....smaller more often doses is the way to go.

Bro im 23 and had the same problem last year. It started at the end of a cycle and PCT didnt help.....so I freaked out and jumped on another cycle and that didnt help either.....there was only two things that would keep me going....two words for you brother.... CIALIS & VICODON:D Only use it like once a week and beat her up enough to make her happy until you can do a strong PCT and get some blood work done.....mine got fixed about 2 months after a very strong and long PCT but unfortinaltly I lost the girl over it and I think that effected my recovery....Im still kinda scared to go back on now that everythings almost normal. Just remember its all part of the game.....you didnt think it was all good now did you:D

Hope this helps....if you need any more advice or just have some off the wall questions feel free to pm me.

Later.

Johnny.

Whats fucked up is he sounded like a decent guy (other than being a cop:D ). So now this mans career, family, and friends are all going to look at him different for what.....taking suppliments that are are approved afe by the FDA....He's probibly going to loose his job just as an example and most of his law enforcement brother are gonna be shady as hell to him.

Im a big fan of dbol due to strenght gains/price/and mood boosting but hells-outlaw you about got me sold on trying drol. I just wonder if drol boosts your mood like dbol?

I pretty much understood shit of what you were explaining but would'nt test suspension be pretty simular to what you were describing???

Originally posted by R/Tman

QV EQ does not hurt, i love that stuff, i cut everything with that, only tihnk iv done from wicked is his prop, and that hurt like hell

Ive used wickeds prop by itself with no pain. I also used his EQ (500mg) last cycle to take the pain away from my 50cc T-250 jug....that by itself wasnt painful but it was the most earitating gear ive used.

Nothing is "safe" bro...your dealing with "illegal substances". Then again dont worry about shit thats out of your control either. Look bro all you can do is look at the risk/benifit of your situation and factor everything in.....then if you do decide to order be smart about it....do a source check with the mods check up on the guy a little and if you dont feel comfortable then fuck it dont do it....its not worth going to prison over. Hope my advice helps bro.

Later.

Johnny.

Never heard anything bad about them (except for high prices sometimes). If you want try posting this question in the Mex/Euro gear section and see what the guys in there have to say. You can do a search in that section and probibly find some good info also.

Johnny.

Dont use juice bro....you can easily pack on much more mass with the right diet/training and some dedication. Answer some questions for us bro and we might be able to help you out better.

*How old are you???

*How long have you been lifting???

*Whats your diet going to consist of???

*Whats your current training like???

*How much do you know about gear???

*Do you know what post cycle therapy is???

With this info we should be able to help you out way more bro.

Johnny.

I always wanted to try a short cycle but was always detered by negative comments. Im glad to hear your happy with your results. I always wanted to try d-bol/prop/tren for six weeks and actually have the cycle but always go with the 10 to 12 weekers. I might give it a shot....its a toss up between that or trying GH:cool:

Originally posted by R/Tman

id like to know also, just some basics for it

Holy shit someone replied:eek: Thank you R/Tman:D I was starting to think that I was the only person on this board who still wanted to learn about muscle building compounds and not just using it for the source section:(

Bump for more info

Johnny.

Here I am again...BUMPING my own thread for more info:( What is it with GH???? Everyone takes the shit but no one knows anything about it or what:confused: ???

Brother you and me both are in the dark on the IGF-1 subject:(

I heard it is excellent when stacked with GH/slin/Test/dbol. Im planning on running a cycle of Test/EQ/Dbol/GH (mabey IGF-1) but I cant find enough info on it to feel comfortable trying it. I started a thread the other day about my cycle but im the only one responding to it....good info on GH and IGF-1 is hard to find. If you run across any good reads let me know.

Later.

Johnny.

Originally posted by D00fy

thx ,im gonna try getting clomid from the dom section after the christmas chaos is cleared up and everyone is backed on track LOL

Ya I hear you on that bro.....If you want to try a REALLY GOOD PCT this is what me and several other people do and it is amazing to say the least when compared to standard clomid PCT.

We incorperate HCG in the last couple weeks of our cycle...(me I now use it all the way threw my cycle but thats just me)

HCG last 2 or 3 weeks of cycle

40mg nolva for 2 weeks (at the normal start of PCT)

20mg nolva for 4 weeks

21 day clomid therapy starting with the nolva X ammount of weeks after your last inject depending on ester.....It might cost a little more than clomid alone but trust me its worth it.

Good luck bro.

Johnny.

If your going to use sust and you can handle all the pokes try shooting it EOD.....try this...

1-13 sust 250mg EOD

1-12 EQ 600mg Divided with the sust shots.

4-12 Proviron (I liked the density it gave me so I threw it in:D )

11-13 HCG

PCT=Clomid/Nolva

Simple yet effective. Whats your goal your trying to reach? Remember this is only one of several options you have with cycle types. Bump for more info....?

Dont sweat it bro....you can do your pct with just nolva....I actually liked it better than just clomid by itself.....try this...

week 1-2 40mg ED

week 3-6 20mg ED

I like to use hcg and nolva/clomid for my pct but I have done just nolva and it worked. If you still have some time before your cycle ends just get somthing from the domestic section. Let us know what you decide.

Johnny.

Thats sucks for syd....he was a good guy. I hope he kept up with deleting everyones info that ordered form him:eek:

Are you looking to cut??? There are much better anabolics out there in my opinion. What type of cycle are you looking to put togeather???

what does your diet and training consist of??? Deca is going to shut you down pretty hard....if you can get some hcg I would throw it in your cycle or at least in the weeks leading up to PCT.

Tell us how everything goes.

Sorry bro...I did some searches and all I found was that pgp2 was good when combined with growth hormone but it said nothing directly about it.....pcp only pops up as a narcotic when searched:( What are you trying to figure out??? Mabey we can find a substitute to help you reach whatever goal you have...

BUMP for more info.

Johnny.

There would really be no point to stagering the dbol 4 on 1 off. Its supposed to serve as a kickstart to a long acting ester...when the dbol gain start to slow then the esters you've been waiting to kick in should be there. I agree with 4 weeks being long enough and six being max.

Whats up bro...

Cycle looks good guy. Sust is normally shot EOD but the way you have it will work fine too. If your BF is a little high just concentrate on a strict diet and I bet you'll be happy with your results. What type of dbol do you have??? If its your first time using Dbol your in for a treat...they really boost your mood. Keep us posted on how it goes and if you have any questions through out just post it up and the bro's on here will take care of you. Have you ever tried Liquidex??? It serves as a really good anti-E and it keeps bloat down considerably...its cheap too:)

Good luck bro.

Johnny.

come on people....everyone seems to like GH....but everytime I post these ?'s I never get a response....nobody has any insight? I would really like to try GH but no way am I going at this cycle uneducated about the subject.....let here it bro's.

Johnny.

I read the sticky above about a million times but I still have a billion questions....when I do a search it just gives me questions and no real factual answers...where do you guys go for good GH info????:( Ive been saving for my next cycle and wanted to try this....

1-10 Cyp 600mg QV

1-10 EQ 400mg QV

1-6 D-bol 30mg ED QV

1-16 GH 4iu's M-F (divided 2iu's AM-2iu's PM)

10-13 Prop 100mg EOD QV

1-12 HCG M/W/F

PCT=Nolva/21 day clomid routine

Supps=Glucophage/creatine/myoplex/multi-vitamins

ANSWERS I CANT FIND ARE AS FOLLOWS.....

*What are the odds of becoming hypoglycemic from the GH if not taking insulin with it???

*Will you natural GH levels be severly suppressed and need some sort of PCT to return to normal after GH use???

*Are ANY of these drugs not recomended in a cycle togeather???

*Is GH really worth the $$$ verse results/sides or should I just stick to juice....GH has always facinated me???

...........ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS/ADVICE ARE WELCOME.............

STATS...

6'4

230lbs

10% bf (mabey a little less)

2 cycles under my belt

1st was 1-8 cyp 400mg/20mg bianabol ED 1-4

2nd was 1-10 Enat 500mg/EQ 500mg 1-10

PCT always HCG/Clomid/Nolva

Thanks to any and all who reply....

Johnny.