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"Why" is really simple and pathetic....but take's a really long time to expain:)
1. Once AAS became popular among the middle-even upper class Joe's the general public started to critisize them due to people using them as a scape goat when they were out performed or someone generally looked better than them. These jelioius uneducated people used "Fear" as a tactic to get tougher restrictions on the substances with the help of the media and uneducated concerned citizens in general.
2. The Government (after pressure from the "concerned citizens") pressured the pharmaceutical companys to tighten up acess to them in an effort to please the general "scared" public.
3. Once this happened they became widely talked about with the help of the internet and the media looking for a story to shock people and get readers. AAS were an easy target cause you can say anything "could be possible " if you cant prove it wrong...such's claims are hard to disprove with lack of research even if the claim has only limited truth not even relating in specific.
4. After they were hyped up with such attention more people started looking into AAS to see if the "magical" claims were true about amazing results. When we "The common Juicer" didnt find anything deathly wrong with AAS and easily noticed the fact that doctors prescribed them for our general purpose (tissue building anabolic substances-mass gain) with NONE of the horrible effects ever occuring as the media stated we began to disreguard all the negative claims (which was partly negative for our purpose) and an epidemic occured with average guy usage.
5. Fianally money. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO MONEY!
a. The pharm comps make more now that AAS are prescripton and the insurance companys are involved so "they" like the regulation.
b. The Government makes a TON with another target for "The War on Drugs"...along with the cash they steal from us with seizure of property and funds, bail-bonds (basically ransom but that another story), court costs, lawyer fee's...ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY. They could give to shits if they hurt the citizens their sworn to serve and protect as long as they profit and they hide behind the claims that "its not them...their just told what to do" but in most cases they themself use the substances and know it's an easy target because most AAS user's arnt criminals...their average working citizens never expecting the wrath of law enforcement (until recently) so we dont prepair for it and continue our day to day law obiding lifestyle. EASY, PROFITABLE TARGETS WHICH IS WHAT THEY LIKE THE BEST. Pretty much no risk busts.
c. Then we have the beloved MEDIA who would sell out their own mother 2 make a buck and push subscriptions. They LOVE AAS because they can virtually say ANY outragious claim almost "Tabloid" like and it cant or people wont disprove it. They feed off the "fear" type readers who love to buy a copy of the paper with the front page saying "9yr old boy throw's hampster against wall in roid rage before jumping off his trailer thinking he's invinsible, after eating 5mg of Dianabol he bought off line" Which probibly wasnt even real. Not to mention we buy it just to see how much crap it is and to generally get pissed off when done (indirectly helping sales). CRAP-FEAR SELLS.
If you look at it logically AAS should be easily accesable if you met standards
such as....
a. Atleast 25yrs or older, unless low test has been found or are on supervised birth control regimen.
b. Have a "legitimate" purpose such as male birth controll or any other number of medically noted circumstance's which reguire the aid of test.
c. Only get a certain amount (which should be an educated number 200mg a week that is based off recent medial studys of blood levels and half-life)
d. Are using it for Testosterone Replacement Therapy.
THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY...
A woman or young girl can get Estrogen without ANY scrutiny. Estrogen is the Dominant female hormone that makes a woman a woman. You can get it for any number of reasons over the counter...
a. Acne.
b. Hormone imbalance...which men have but is never discussed.
c. Birth control...which is also what a male could effectively testosterone for.
*A MAN can EASILY get Estrogen if he feel's the need to become a woman without ANY scrutiny which is hell on the male body and shortens lifespan.
*If a Man wanted to get Testosterone to become more of a man let alone use it for medically documented reason's such as low test or birth control we are looked at like Roid Raging drug addicts that have super ego's that were willing to die for or dirty needle using pill poping junkys with no reguard for out heath which is the EXACT OPPISITE of most men here! Get my point.
Well I noticed there was only 2 post to this thread an this topic really pisses me off so I figured I would waste 15mins of my life typing this thread. It will only make the rest of you even madder about the topic and not change a damn thing. Sorry for the long reply but I had to run my mouth about it...not having a good day.
Take care everyoneLOL
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Did I read that wrong? He was using 250mg of enanthate a week with an oral 2x a week? What happened to all his muscle after pic A? Did it leak out of his body with the puss? After a moment of deep thought I finally figured out that anabolic steroids were the cause of the sores....I figure he must have been home brewing a few 100cc or so and his wife came home with the inlaws! after all the publications of UGL's the father in law accused him of "making the sauce". The 21yr old then tried saying it was homemade tanning oil. The father in law said oh ya....put some on. Well you guys know the rest:)
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ScienceDaily (Dec. 20, 2006) — Researchers at the University of Southern California have discovered a direct link between loss of testosterone and the development of an Alzheimer's disease in mice. They also discovered that testosterone treatment slows progression of the disease.
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The study, published in the December 20 issue of The Journal of Neuroscience, predicts that testosterone-based hormone therapy may be useful in the treatment and prevention of Alzheimer's disease in aging men.
"We've known that low testosterone is a risk factor for Alzheimer's disease but now we know why," said Christian Pike, senior author and associate professor at the Leonard Davis School of Gerontology at USC. "The implication for humans is that testosterone therapy might one day be able to block the development of the disease."
In order to investigate testosterone's role in the development of Alzheimer's disease, the team took away the ability of male mice to produce testosterone. Some mice were then given a form of testosterone while others were given none.
The mice with lowered testosterone showed increases in levels of the protein beta-amyloid, which has been widely implicated as playing a role in the development of Alzheimer's disease. They also showed signs of behavioral impairment.
The mice that were given testosterone showed reduced accumulation of beta-amyloid and less behavioral impairment.
"These results are exciting because they tell us that we are on to something that is worth pursuing," said Pike.
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This is your third post and you ask if you can......
1.Take steroids to loose weight....NO
2.Loose weight fast....NO
3.Not workout to loose weight....NO
4.Use steroids and not workout....NO
5.Keep weight from coming back without doing anything....NO
Your friend is an IDIOT! Your friend is a DANGERIOUS IDIOT! Forget EVERYTHING your friend has ever told you and EVERYTHING you think is right and mabey we can help you help yourself.
SERIOUSLY. I dont want to be a dick and scare you off. First off after that rant welcome to anabolicboard. After reading your post I am under the assumption that you are interested in loosing weight. This is never going to happen unless you only eat one meal every other day and puke it up. You dont want to eat right or exercise so its never going to happen steroids or not. Seeing as how your going to have a lot of free time scence your not eating right or going to the gym you have plenty of time to research and read up on the boards to see what you need to do and how to do it to accomplish your goals.
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EXCELLENT POST JOHNNY!!! Posts like these are what make this board special as there are members who take the time to research studies, medical journals out to see IF these compounds could really fuck you up!!
I would give you rep points if we had them here, but hell I'll give you some kudos brotha!!!:buttrock:
Thank you brother. I hate telling people things they dont want to hear after the mojority of the people say its ok but reguardless of ones reaction I feel its better to know all the facts good or bad before you risk your health. The more educated you are on what your doing the less you can blame the substance wheather it be AAS, Adderall, or weight gainer. Its uninformed people that normally get the shit end of the stick when they never would have done whatever it was that fucked them up if they had the information in the first place. Good to see you around bro.
Laters.
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Its a steroid panel they use its 100 bucks a test..they test or 53 type of anabolic agents(even ephedrine) they test for the metabolites in your urine...also if your test ratio is higher than 6:1 its positive..
Im glad you didnt take my post as an insult. I read it again in the morning and I was hoping you would see I was just trying to help.
If you say they test you and you have the info then I guess your right. Tell ya what brother let me do some research and talk to a few BB bro's of mine and let me see if I cant give you some info on how other people get around this. I wouldnt opt for the cathider (sp?) route if you mean pumping your urine out and having someone elses urine pumped in. That just sounds like your asking for trouble. When did you take the shot of tren A and when is the test?
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i just dont think i can pull that method off with them staring at me when i do the test...might just go to the catheter route
They test you for AAS and your not in a large city? ARE YOU 100% SURE? My uncle is the captain of the fire dept in a very large city and I just asked him about drug test and AAS. He told me that NO FIRE DEPARTMENT has EVER tested one of its employee's RANDOMLY for AAS! He said that some departments lie and say they test for AAS after some dick beater (his words) asks if they test for them but they have never tested for them in the the 4 major citys that he has worked for. He said there has been 3 cases of firemen loosing their jobs due to AAS use and the ONLY reason these guys were tested is no one liked them and they asked if they were going to be tested and thats the only way they could fire them without violating there union or whatever but he said it was a pain in the ass to get the proper channels to test them and they were all sent off for blood work. This happened recently and all the guys worked togeather. He also said the ONLY reason they actually got fired was all 3 refused to have there name tarnished and go to a drug program cause they knew they wernt wanted and would evently be fired for another reason. AGAIN ARE YOU POSITIVLY SURE THEY TEST FOR AAS? Guys come on here worried about drug test for the military/police/firedepartment/parole ect and NONE of these places test for AAS unless they have reason to. I have seen proof that they dont test but ive NEVER seen ANYONE ever produce any actual documentation stating anyone other than athletic type situations testing for them.
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Dont mean to chime in and be the father figure here but I was not very familure with the substance so I did some research on it to see if I could find anything you should worry about with it. As everyone stated if its prescribed to you and you take it like you normally do you should be fine and it helps regulate alot of the problems normally associated with it if you need it. *One thing that did catch my attention is that adderal is a very strong amphetamine and it reaks havoic on your heart and arteries (sp? tubes flowing in and out of the heart... they called them somthing else but i couldnt remember so I just guessed on the name). I found a study in some medical journals and papers at my university and it had some cases specifically warning about patients who take adderal and TRT. It was saying some patients (HIV) were taking nandrolone with testosterone and their blood count and blood pressure was increasing and adding a dangeriously high level of stress on the heart from it being speeded up and having to stretch to accomidate to the increase in flow. One patient who was taking 30mg divided threwout the day had to be rushed to the ER to be sedated and let the adderal were off. The patient was then made to go give blood every so often depending on how his weekly blood test came back to help regulate the situation. Again this is all writen in such broken medial terminalogy that im trying to just give you the just of what I found in the 200+ page article. If you are taking less than 30mg ED divided or are getting regular blood tests then you should be fine but I figured better safe than sorry so I brought it up. I go back to school in a few days for the second summer semester so if you want to take a look at it I can give you all the info of where I found it or I can dig it up and see if I can find someone to post it up and have it emailed in a file to you. Either way just figured Ide share with you what I found...better safe than sorry. Take care bro. Laters.
Johnny. PS sorry for the 20+ page post.
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He didnt like the results? Either the gear was fake or he wasnt eating right and was told the "take some steroids and get cut and ripped look" myth and wasnt happy with the bloat and round look he added on top of his already round frame.
We need some more info to give any good helpful advice. The main thing I need to know is BF. Im 6'4 and at 300lbs lean natural I wouldnt even consider AAS unless I was in a competition or strength training. Im going to assume (which isnt always a good idea) that your buddy is not under 10%BF. In which case he needs to hit heavy cardio and a clean diet with weights just to maintain his strength. Once he gets leaner he can try another cycle with a test base no higher than 750mg a week with say EQ or some other long ester and slowly work at the desired build he wants to acheice. Again this is all guessing seeing as how I have no idea of his goals or what he looks like. More info = much better advice.
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May i have a personal question? counld u sent me your email address?My email is [email protected], thx, man.
heybabylover...if you arnt a spammer I pre-appoligize for this statement.
There have been several new member names spamming advertisements lately. Before you pm or email one of these strange posts check their past posts and see if any replys of theirs are real or all spam. In this case the name above only has two posts and both are asking to send messages or for info. Im just saying better safe than sorry before you give out your addy and get your email wrecked with spam you cant get rid of. Again I appoligize if your not a "computer" heybabylover and just needed helpWink ....If that is the case you can ask me whatever you need to know and if I cant help I will find you the answer or find someone who knows it.
Thanks.
John.
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Deca
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Is it advicable to add deca mid cycle to increase gains? Im on week 7 of this current cycle.week 1-5 dbol 20 mgs ed
week 1-8 test e 500 mg
week 8-12 test cyp
Ive seen no gains since I stopped the dbol. Ive gained 15 lbs first 5 weeks. Lost 3 of em since I dropped the dbol and running the teste e alone. The reason for switching to the cyp at week8 is because Im wondering if the enan is underdosed and the cyp is more reliable ******. Is it advicable to add deca at 200 at week 8 -12 as well and extend the cyp to 14 weeks?
This is common. You've already put on 15lbs and the test might be real but you not going to put on another 15lbs but rather maintain what you have and add a little more mass. Here on out you should just widen out and fill in while maintaining your new mass. Your still probibly growing but dont look at the scale so much to determine if you getting gains or not. You can also up your cal-prot intake to account for your new mass. Alot of times guys are dropping bf and loosing water weight from the dbol and the test is adding size and weight but there both happening at the same time so you dont really notice a diffrence on the scale but rather in appearance and continued strength gains. This happened to me. Adding deca at this point wont do anything. You should just stick to the cycle you have planned out and see what happens.
With that said if you were sure the test is fake which im not sure how you could no that for a fact without lab results you could switch everything up if you had acess to diffrent things ASAP. An emergency change would look like this but I wouldnt advise it on scale readings alone.....
8-14 Prop 100mg EOD
8-14 NPP 75-100mg EOD
Then PCT when they cleared.
Either way I would just run this one threw atleast till week ten and plan a diffrent cycle for later. If nothing happens in any aspect by week ten just cut it short and do PCT. Hope this info helped. Take care and let us know how things go or what you decide.
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Im glad to see you went with a moderate dose of tren. I would imagine your going to be running your ass off so tren would not have been my first choice. If you've never taken it before it gave me the worst winded feeling ive ever had with a real restriction on my stamina and I sweated like no tomorrow. If you've taken it before then you know what your doing and the sides may not hit you the same. Just for convience I would have went with somthing like EQ at a low dose and test C or E just to minimize the shots. You could get away with 1 shot a week using those compounds and they are both relatively cheap if your budgets tight. I assume your not worried about a drug test cause your not sticking with all short ester's seeing as how the test D in the sust stays around a long time. Either way what you have is good so the best of luck to you. Take care.
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Thats a big cycle...good luck with that!
Big cycle? Length wise? The lenght of a long ester test is on average 8-10 weeks seeing as how the test takes about 3 weeks to build up to the dose your actually taking and the noticable effects seem to come on for me around week 5 (varys person to person but not much) which in an 8 week cycle only leaves a 3 week window of noticable effects for me in paticular. The reason I chose 16 weeks is the other 2 substances I added take much longer to kick in and see a noticable effect so I left I left the test in to aid and combat any negative sides that might pop up. At the low dose of 500mg I would assume your not calling that big seeing as how this is one of several runs with test and the base dose is 500 for a well trained beginner. The average dose for deca is 400mg and the average dose for EQ being effective is 400-600mg to see noticable effects so the doses I chose are rather humble in my opinion and experience also. If you see somthing drasticly out of proportion I would apprecitate if you would let me know and add some up to date refs where it came from and I would appreciate the help-info. Thanks for the "good luck" also.
Whoa cowboy!!!500mg of caffeine per serving?
I always thought the proper ECA Stack was:
25 mg ephedrine/ephedra
200mg caffeine
250mg aspirin
Post a reference?
"Proper"? I didnt think an ECA stack had a set in stone dose but rather went by the need and tolerance to the paticular individual? I always seen the dose vary depending on the paticular individuals needs. Here's a C-P of some info I pulled up on the net..
What dosages should I take?
The ideal ratio for the ECA stack is 10:1 caffeine to ephedrine. Many ******s suggest that the ideal dosage is 25mg ephedrine up to 50mg, caffeine ranging from 250mg start up to 600mg, and 80-300mg aspirin (no need for a larger dose than the higher end. More specifically, you could take 1 Chesteze, 3-4 Pro-plus and half a full dose aspirin. This gives you 18.3 mg ephedrine, 180mg caffeine, 150mg aspirin on the conservative end. Some people take double the dosage of Chesteze and Pro-plus, but this is an individual thing so I would start at this lower dosage and see how it effects you.
Did you find any studys charting the dose verse effectiveness on the ECA stack? If so the info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the replys. Any and all info is appreciated.
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Thats great you write everything down, especially during cycle. Being regimented like that will help you reflect next time around and assist in planning better etc...If your at the back end of two weeks, you should begin to start seeing that weight ride up and the strength come knockin. You got a ways to go, so just sit back and enjoy the ride. If your immune system is down Id also recommend taking about 1500mgs Vitamin C...and you prob know this but inhale water all day long..at the least 1 gallon....Good luck and keep us posted!----SH
Thanks for the advice. I didnt want to write everything down that I was doing and bore you guys but im drinking atleast a gallon of water a day (I carry a 1gal jug with a handle) and I take 5000mg powedized non-acedic Vit-C ED. Believe it or not when I just take the Vit-c and I get the flu or somthing...if I up it to around 10,000mg a day threwout I get over things much quicker so I am a firm believer in it helping boost the immune system along with several other advantages. Take care and I will keep everyone updated. Thanks again.
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Just wanted to give everyone an update that helped me out a few weeks back. I plan on posting before-after pics seeing as how this should be a very noticable transformation. I still feel sick as hell and my energy is lacking but ive been taking ephedrine only 25mg 1st thing in the morning to force myself out of bed and it sucks but it seems to be working. Ive lowered my AAS doses considerably seeing as I know better than to try and take large doses for long durations trying to play catch up when my bodys already over taxed.
Cycle update...
1-16 500test cyp
1-15 300 Bold cyp
1-15 200 Deca
5iu's HGH M-F enfinity and beyond...that or till im broke.
Ive been eating 4 very large but healthy meals a day and 2 protein shakes.
Supps...
Mega Man multi-vitamins 2 ED
Sam-e 800mg ED
5-HTP 50mg divided AM-PM
Milk Thistle
Glutamine-creatine
This has really helped my motivation and mood. Im only at the end of week 2 and havent gained much weight but im solid and my body seem fuller.
Not trying to make this thread to long but im logging EVERYTHING from sleep to training/diet/gear down to the hour of the shot. If anyone's interested I can post it in the cycle log section if its still up.
Take care and thanks to everyone again.
John.
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It would be much easier if you could give us the name of the UGL that made them. Your buddy should know or the guy he got them off of. The only tabs that even possible come to mind are Generic anadrols. Either way dont take them unless you get a POSITIVE ID on what they are reguardless of the loss. Keep us posted.
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Im very sorry to hear about your situation and I feel for you. What we do as a whole in taking all these substances is nothing to take lightly and you can attest to that. EVERYTIME you take anything wheather its test dbol and certainly HGH and IGF you taking a serious risk that somthing could go wrong. Im very interested in seeing what your doc visit comes up with and I wish you all the best. I definatly wouldnt try to wait it out like your friend did. Your doing the only logical move and im surprised you put up with the situation as long as you did but I feel where your coming from because the last thing you want to do is visit a doc and tell them what you did. See if he can figure out whats wrong and then I would ask him if increasing your IGF could cause this. You could even say you were taking a legal OTC supp from GNC that was supposed to raise HGH/IGF release and how long you took it if you dont want to be straight forward with him. I would try to avoid coming right out and telling him what you did seeing as how he might just blame another underlying problem you have on that and not try as hard to find the root of the problem even if it is the IGF. AGAIN im very sorry to hear about your situation and I wish you the best of luck. Please keep us posted.
John.
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Dont really know what kind off cycle to start but what im aiming for is to bulk up i seen a couple of cycle on here but dont know what is best for me. would want to go no orals.
Age 23
weight 190
body fat 7% i think
been working out for 4yrs and stop for 7months due to newborn
I agree with everyone thus far. With that low of a BF you either have an excellent diet/dont eat/or your metabolisim is threw the roof! That is very impressive for even 190lbs. As stated before get back in the swing of things and get a good lifting routine and diet laid out for your goals (check the nutrition section). I would say hit the gym for a few months and try to get back to your old peak and then when winter rolls in you can hit a serious "growth sput" with the cycle and do a pct and by next summer you will be looking jacked from all your hard work. Just try to avoid a serious newbi mistake of taking the gear for the purpose of trying to get back to your old peak...do that natural then hit the gear and break threw your old stats no problem.
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have you ever gone above 600mg/week?
Ive hit 600 for over 14 weeks and never experienced anixety but I did start to get nose bleeds often around week 12 and it stopped when the EQ cleared my system.
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Im going to go against the grain and suggest somthing simular but not exactly. Deca gave me great size but made me look baloon like. EQ didnt give me near as much size as deca but made me hungry and gave me that dense lean look with some size, but when the dose was 600 or more gave me serious high BP. This is my all time favorite stack. It used to be considered taboo a few yrs back for those of you who remember.
1-5 Dbol 25-35mg ED
1-16 Test C or E 600mg EW
1-14 EQ 400mg EW
1-12 Deca 200mg EW (out first due to recovery of HTPA)
Aromasin M/W/F
This for me was the best of both worlds. People used to tell me that deca and EQ were so closely related that you couldnt run both in a cycle but that just isnt true....the two act completly diffrent in results. You have the test for obvious reasons and the minimum amount of deca for bulk minimizing the bloat. The EQ is just starting to get effective at that dose and you get the hunger plus the dense hard vascular look from it. The dbol gives you that extra boost in size and strength while the long esters are building up and the aromasin keeps you dry while blocking most of the unwanted sides but kept low enough not to hinder estrogen too much as to lessen gains. You accompany this with a 400pro-4k cal clean as that amount can be diet and look out. The only set back is the baby wipes your going to have to buy for your ass if amount of food runs out of you like it does me. Just food for thought. If not EQ is fine but the deca size wont be there so your making sacrifices.
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Lol I am no rep for sam-e. I just think it is a good addition to almost anyone's supplement regimen, for physical and mental health. Too answer your questions..
1.I have been taking Sam-e on and off for over three years. Some take it year round.
2.I started taking it initially because of slight depression. I found my neighbor dead, almost OD'd on meth, and my destructive lifestyle was getting to me. I was no meth addict or anything, this actually occurred my first time using. I have never used since. Anyway I realized that I was having some problems and looked into some natural support. I liked what I read about Sam-e and gave it a shot. It didn't turn my life around or anything but it did help. Soon after I cleaned up my act and got my head back on straight. I now take it for the many benefits it offers, not just for the anti-depressive effect.
The first time I took it I didn't know as much as I do now, and started with too low a dose. When I read some more and upped the dose to 1600 mg ED, I noticed within a week. I was more relaxed, hard to bother, and just felt right.
After a month or so of dosing I noticed a slight difference on days that I did not take it. It was nothing like a withdrawal type of effect but a subtle "something is missing" kind of feeling. Not a bad feeling really. I have ceased cold turkey after long runs with high dosages and suffered no ill effects. Now I take 200-400 mg a day and 800-1600 a day if on cycle, especially with orals. Sam-e has also been shown to inactivate some estrogens. Helps aggressiveness on cycle, post cycle crash afterwards, gets liver in check, helps joints, brain function, etc etc etc so I take it as long as budget permits. This is why I am surprised that it is not more popular in the bodybuilding scene.
Damn man im sorry to hear about your neighbor and you being put in that situation. Im glad you got your life back on track before things turned down hill for you as well. I appreciate all your information along with your honesty and help. Im going to give the product a try and add it to my supp regamin and see how it goes. I like how you put "It didnt turn your life around but it help". Too many people give the credit for their hard work to somthing their on...I see this many times with AAS positive and negative when people say this cycle gave them this much muscle when it was their hard work or when someone says "The only reason that guys that big is cause he using steroids" when the fact of the matter is if you gave the asshole who said that the same cycles he wouldnt be near as big as the other guy cause it was all the hardwork with Diet/training/and dedication that got the larger guy his size. Again I appreciate you and everyone else's help. Now its up to me to spring back and post some pic's to let everyone know I didnt let them down. Take care bud.
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^Thanks for an answer. Ok, so maybe ill just run test for the first cycle to get a feel of things. Is there a specific type of test I should be looking for, for what my goals are?
Test is test is test is test. As im sure you read diffrent types of test just have to be injected more often or less to get the desired levels in the system. If I were you....I would stick with a long acting inject like Enanthate or cypionate which are the easiest forms to get anyways. With these types you only have to do one injection a week for your goals. But remember if you dont hit the correct amounts of Cals/protein ect you are going to fall short of your goals.
Again....im not trying to be a dick. What are you reasons for considering AAS use anyways? I swear to you if you stick around here and gather up all the information that this board has to offer you can easily reach your goals without putting your body threw the stress of AAS. Your going to do what you want to do but look at it like this...if you wait say even a yr before you decide to do your cycle you can learn all there is to know about what your actually doing, get your diet and training better than you ever imagined and probibly reach your goals before you start the cycle and then if you still decide to go threw with it you will be a beast compared to what you originally intended. Ok im done with my rant. You can start your cycle now.
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*Mad Mardigan*
Damn brother I researched that shit for an hour or so lastnight and didnt find nearly as much info as you posted up in your response. I truely appreciate it my friend. As you stated I can really tell you like your sam-eLOL If you dont mind I have three more quick questions for you.
1.How long have you been taking it?
2.If its not to personal what are your reasons for taking it or starting it?
3.How long did it take before you definatly noticed a diffrence in anything?
Im going to order a few month's up tonight. I'll keep you posted on if I like it or not.
Are you sure your not a sales rep for sam-e....its cool if you are ide just like to know before I make my final decisionLOL J/K
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i DID do reading. Im planning on doing a mass stack, 40-50mg D-Bol a day combined with XXXmg of test a week. I just wasnt sure on how much test a week considering its my first cycle. I also wanted to know if I needed a specific PCT for this kind of stack. Damn, just asking for a little help.
This guy can learn and read..If not he can go back to high school.
Why the hell is this illegal anyway???
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I agree Bro. Its almost as if your supposed to be ashamed if you are proud that your a man and take pride in having a HEALTHY strong physique. Envy seems to be the main start of this whole thing. One person was jelious of another person and started complaining about unfair this and that. They way I see it you should have two options....EITHER
A. Professional athletes (along with everyone else that chooses) should have the choice to take performance enhancers or not. We pay outragious salarys to our athletes for ENTERTAINMENT. If they want to use a performance enhancer (which they already can...unless its proven to work then its classified as prescription and banned) to entertain us better so be it. They are adults. If they feel the benifits out weigh the risks then ok. The main complaint by natural athletes is they should not have to risk their health to compete with other athletes....in my mind this is a bullshit arguement seeing as how most side effects they state are media bull that have no proof or can be disproven.
B. Or we should start two classes of sports. Natural or performance enhanced leagues. You guess which one people will be more entertained by.