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    Labwork question/ tren e

    in Steroid Talk

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    I had blood work with labcor

    Using 400mg or so of Tren, with 750mg (max) of test.

    .5mg of arimidex 2 to 3 times a week.

    E2 came back over 500.

     

    Another time it was over 130.

     

    Did not experience any of the normal side effects of super high estro.

    Been question those readings for years.

     

    Pulled the lab report.

    IGF-1 282

    Estradiol, sensitive 525

    Testosterone, serum >1500

    LDL 178

    T3 uptake 42

    AST 50

    ALT 85

     

    when it was over 130 that one time were u using tren ?

    Labwork question/ tren e

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    I would say like everyone else just get your labs redone a quest and see what they say..

    Also though, you said you were taking 25mg Aromasin ED on 300mg of test? If your E2 is not crashed on that dose then I would definitely question the Aroma...

    I know everyone is different but I've never heard of anyone needing anything close to that on 300mg. What do you take if your over a gram? A handful a day?

     

    well I was taking 600 of test and was in prep so was in the process of dropping it but had yet to do so

    Labwork question/ tren e

    in Steroid Talk

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    Just get your E2 redone at Quest Labs and see if there is a difference before changing things. As many have mentioned, the Labcorp testing will give you false results when on Tren. I would hate to see you overdose on AI's and drive your estrogen into the ground when it may actually be normal and you don't realize it.

     

    well I would just switch over the the phizer at a moderate dose and let the aromasin do it's thing. I feel fine so I'm not in a hurry to drive estrogen down. I just want to be sure what I'm taking 100% is actually taking care of the estrogen instead of "hoping" it is.

    Labwork question/ tren e

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Funny how when I ask for factual evidence I become a smart ass.

     

    With one being a nurse and one being a doc, both should know better than to be on TRT without monitoring bloods without you telling them. But that aside, one is a nurse and one is a doc... Why on earth would a doc who's already prescribing himself TRT and a nurse who is legit prescribed TRT need to go to a UG or RC for an AI??? The doc can write his own script for a pharm AI of his choice (including actual aromasin directly from Pfizer). And he was the one that ordered your labs, yet he didn't interpret them for you? And if he did, did you not ask him about tren potentially causing a false reading? (I would be curious if tren does, if theres the potential for deca to as well)

     

    You asked about Tren/a tren metabolite to be incorrectly ID'ed as test on blood work and you seemed to be moving towards a differential of 1- The tren is artificially creating a high E2 result, or 2- the AI you're taking is bunk. You aren't experiencing high E2 sx and you say you trust your aromasin source. In my (fairly highly) educated opinion, this would lead me to think it was a false E2 reading more likely than your AI being bunk. USUALLY a dose of 200-300 mg of test would NOT result in high E2 in MOST individuals. If you believe otherwise, I'd encourage you to look into statistical (not anecdotal) evidence of studies on TRT pts demonstrating this. That being said, elevated E2 CAN occur (as I have said 3 times now) in some individuals with a dose of as little as 200 mg/wk. I wasn't attempting to be a "smart ass" in any way, merely citing the clinically supported evidence that is not usually the case.

     

    Back to what you need to do however.... If you can't get an answer about the tren messing with the results, you have a doc that can order labs for you like that, and you think the aromasin you're using is bunk (which seems to be what you're thinking now) - stop taking it for 10 days, keep the injections the same, and have the bloods rechecked (might want to have a SERM on hand in case you find out it was real and get hit with gyno sx though). Or get your doc buddy to write you a script for pharma extremase, switch to that for 10 days, then take bloods and see if the E2 changes.

     

    You didn't mention who's gear you were running either, but it could be the case the tren isn't really tren and is something that aromatizes as well and may be another thing to consider if it turns out your aromasin is real.

     

    That was what my question was ? Do you think the tren e is causing a false positive ? As far as my clients are concerned I can't help what they do and frankly don't really care. The nurse was getting his script from his GP that knows nothing about AI's and the Dr. Just keeps stuff on the DL I suppose...However with all that being said these are real people with real labwork to prove that estradiol can be very high with no AI on lower dosages.

     

    With all that being said I'm just trying to figure out why the e2 reading was that high. I have never done labs on tren and before my e2 was always perfect. So this was a big surprise...and yes for safe measure I'm getting some Pfizer aromasin

    Labwork question/ tren e

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Sounds about right I had a similar episode of false reading from blood work as well one time . The readings where so high I should of been pronounced dead at the time I personally use quest for all lab and blood work testing and have been happy with the results

    Good luck

     

    can u remember what u were running and what the labs came back as ?...was an AI being used ?

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