champ0505

As time goes by iron bros are learning more and more from each other. As more people realize the true formula what will stop that person from becoming a freak? For some it could be money, for someone else it could be health, for another it could be unwillingness to put that much hormones in their body for many years straight. Everyone has things they are comfortable taking and others have things they wish not to take, this is what separates the true freak. Ultimately any extreme measure such as hardcore bodybuilding is not good for a person. Nasser comes to my mind and many more who gave there all for this beloved lifestyle. It's a passion that the hardcore develop early on in high school as teenagers as did I. But at one point the person must ask themselves how far are they willing to go for muscular greatness. I believe the key to the non competing athlete is to move up in doseages slowly and find a good place, not too weak (ie 750 test 600 eq 50 anadrol) and not too extreme (this varies from person to person/possibly 3.5 grams test 1 gram deca 1 gram eq 100mg Dbol). The key in bodybuilding as a lifestyle is balance, a happy medium; however in competitive bodybuilding one must sacrifice health, money, and other things in the quest for victory and achieving personal best physique achievements. I, myself as a non competing bodybuilder will push the limits in hormones for the love of the lifestyle, the training, the hormones, the food, the look, the mental state, all those good things we like. I once had a goal at 16 of being a pro but as I matured later into my 20s I realized I wasn't willing to do what a pro must do in preparation for competition (ie selfish time during prep, very expensive, synthol, getting into that driven focus mentality) I'm not against any of this at all, I admire the competetors who do this all the way to the stage. My wife would be the reason what changed my mind. Now I have something to lose, as a single man I was wild, careless, carefree, not afraid to die, not afraid of jail. A man who has nothing to lose is a dangerous man. Had I remained single I would go for the dream, I have the selfish, determined, and robotic traits of those competetors. I guess I have just grown soft leaving my single life behind. No this is not an estrogen vent on pct bs lol just stating some life things and thoughts with the iron brother hood. Food for thought. - champ out.

After reading extensive posts from a couple true freaks, one being Caged Freak here at AB I am convinced that if anyone wants to be really over the top with quality size and mass than one needs large doses of testosterone continuesly for years. Say 3 Grams + for blasts and no less than 1500 mgs for crusing (4-6 weeks 2X a year) continuesly with constant hgh use for best results + cycling in anabolics such as eq,deca,tren, or npp (1 product or 2 at a time). Cycling insulin for those who feel comfortable with said anabolics for maximum transportation of nutrients and hormones. Emphasizing starting this extreme growth phase while lean in bf in the singles for maximum growth.

I Understand this may not be healthy but for the guys who truly want to be 250+ in singles bf I am convinced that long term high test and gh is a must. Of course like CF has mentioned this dose is to be slowly upped until the body can handle it and these doses are for veterans who have juiced a number of years and are no longer responding to the gram of test with 900 mgs of eq and an oral.

I myself am going to re comp for 14 to 16 weeks and attempt to blow up the right way with continuesly upping the test dose and anabolics and stay there for a long time to allow the body to adapt to the new size. I do and always had aspirations of becoming a real freak but have stayed on the conservative side of dosing and now realize that to be a freak it takes large doses for the experienced bodybuilder who already knows how to eat and train for muscular hypertrophy, this is not for rookies or young guys but advanced bodybuilders who are ready to throw in the towel and chalk it up to, " my genetics weren't ment to be so big." Then you say F it! I'm going all in and trying for a good 2 more years, 24 months of largely increased test and anabolics (gh if can afford). Time will tell. Most will not attempt, some will quit before allowing enough time for mutation, and the 5% of die hards left will discover whether or not they were able to break though their genetic limit or if there ever was a so called genetic limit. I for one will find out in a couple years (without gh/possible the key?/maybe not possible without gh?/ I can imagine it's very important for full transformation/ encouraged if can run enough constantly) if I still walk the earth I say this bc we cannot assume we will be here from 1 day to another, Greg Plitt for example. That is my learned philosophy for a true freakish mutation. -Champ

CagedFreak, I read through this whole thread! Thanks for the honest responses and advice, really great info in this thread. It's nice to see a freak give honest info on how to really grow and not the typically bs doseages we are accustomed to see like 2ccs of Deca and 2ccs of primo lol! Only one other freak besides yourself named Swiper has opened my eyes regarding high dose test and the importance of hgh. So I give ya a pat on the ass for being honest, helping guys in there quest for mass and being a standup guy! Thanks freak.

Hey Joey, yeah looks like I joined last year to browse about, forgot about this site and tried the login and it worked. I suspect bc of no posts that's why I can't view the sponsors. I will keep checking as I come back daily to this board.

And to the other guys I'm not much of a social guy so I don't care much to put myself out their and introduce myself, if I happen to post (I lurk and read) you will see by my posts that I am not a young gun new to this lifestyle.

Anyhow guys look forward to reading some more interested posts from guys like caged freak and would like some insight on strango and other sponsors here who I read cf mention and see how they measure up to tsm(I know tsm is retired)and ugf from olm, would appreciate any constructive words or advice! Thanks champ.

Hey guys I'm new here at AB. I see guys here do not care much for olm and pm. So I am curious to see what sponsors AB has. Why don't I see the sponsors here? Do I need a certain number of posts to view or what? Thanks for the help, I appreciate it!