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On 2/24/2023 at 1:14 PM, January912 said:

That is a great deal, it's a damn shame the exchanges lock your funds up for 5 days. It will be March 😩

Can't speak for all of them but if you wire transfer on a business day before 2pm EST (maybe it's 12pm EST?) you should be able to buy and send same day, $25 flat fee with most banks to wire. As long as you've done at least one transaction with the exchange before.

Logging on here after a few years I was fully puckered assuming DFL wouldn't be around and I'd have to go play financial roulette/become a guinea pig on something new. DFL is the only guy that's earned my full trust. Legit stuff and never have to worry about if a pack is going to show. One time there was a bit of a delay with some real life stuff going on but I never had to wonder if I was getting scammed and in this game I'll trade a few extra days of waiting for peace of mind any day of the week. Glad to see this place is still intact and hope y'all have stayed healthy/sane in this crazy ass world.

Great contribution bj. It's when everything is too perfect that I start getting skeptical. DFL still smelling like a rose, you made whole . . . plus a little, thanks for the posts.

Agreed. When it's too perfect every single time you start wondering if they're sacrificing security for quick turnaround on every order. I always chose DFL for prioritizing quality & safety over any guaranteed expediency. It definitely was frustrating a few times when the mailbox would be empty for days beyond when I expected it and there was no email response, but I always knew it'd show up and assumed there was a good reason for the delay.

Of the two sources whose tren (both A and E) I've run in my lifetime, both produced similar results. Both were also on the lighter side of tren but definitely dosed properly (many on this board would testify to that). I'm one of the fortunate ones who has never had tren cough and doesn't get any serious sides. Catching my breath can be a little harder but sweating my ass off is the only significant side effect of tren for me.

No sides doesn't mean it wasn't working. It may have been "cleaner", or your diet or other lifestyle factors were minimizing the sides for that particular run. Maybe you were getting an extra placebo effect from always having those side effects which made it feel like it was working more? I fall prey to this at the start of a tren blast, and probably everyone does even if we know better. But after the first few weeks I'd trade my left nut to get rid of the sweating.

Never understood why people do this. The only way to keep a good community going is if everyone understands that both sides have to trust each other and honor their side of things. Luckily people get banned/called out quickly here.

Like others have said, this is what I do

1) If it's a trip under 3 weeks I frontload some long esters and take aroma/nolva/clomid in pill bottles like Taurine or some supplement (not tylenol or advil as those clearly look different than big capsules). And my blood levels certainly dip a bit but I honestly don't really notice anything significant in terms of gains if I'm already a few weeks into cycle.

2) Trip over 3 weeks - plan the cycle better ideally, but if it happens then mail it in advance to yourself.

3) International - Nope. Not bringing or mailing anything.

The only thing I could think of while skimming this thread was this classic internet pic

I've had shots when I push the plunger the oil pushes against a nerve and in an feel that shit all the way down to my foot when doing a quad shot.

I did this once, hurts pretty bad. But the worst part was that it caused an involuntary reflex and the needled moved around significantly.

He activley tried to burn me for a while....waaay back when his rep was good, or at least it seemed good, I got hgh off him and it was legit, I ordered 3 more n they never came I asked him bout it n he was super apologetic n promised to resend, also offered me a "bulk deal at cost" for hgh becuz he "felt so bad" that my order was so late, if I bought 10kits 1100$, deal seemed a lil too good to be true so I said when I get my 3 im owed ill get 10 more, he repeatly came up with reasons why he needed me to order right away before the original order arrived....i smelled something fishy so I stopped responding to his emails asking when id send $$, never got my 3 kits either lol

Good thing you spotted that.

It still amazes me at just how many people let the idea of some gains cloud their judgement and enable them to fall prey to such obvious scams.

This thread reminds me of the South Park spoof a long time ago on the elections - Turd Sandwich vs Giant Douche

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s08e08-douche-and-turd

Ok please tell me what a "steroid face" is?

Maybe he means HGH face? The guys using lots of HGH for long periods of time definitely have changes in their face (jaw/forehead in particular) that are not solely attributable to age.

So to answer his question, Arnold didn't have "steroid face" because there's no such thing (other than maybe leaning it out a bit while on tren or moonfacing on high test), but guys nowadays definitely have some face changes from HGH. And Arnold's changes weren't that crazy, definitely could be due to age and changing leanness.

Sounds like he watched the National Geographic (or maybe it was Discovery) documentary called "Science of Steroids."

It doesn't say lifting natural is useless...it just explains how steroids greatly improve your recovery time. I think it does mention cortisol a bit, but it doesn't say lifting naturally is pointless.

EDIT -

It's not a bad documentary. If I remember correctly it provides both sides of the steroids argument, and the guy defending them (or at least saying they aren't the roid rage, heart exploding drug they're made out to be) seemed reasonable. But I watched it a couple of years ago.

One side I forgot about & not mentioned,, tren cough,, effin brutal, I get tingly all over hot flashes, sweating , throat closes, & the coughing starts,, lasts anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes,,I've been on a cycle for 8 weeks now, 4 to go , & that was my fourth cough episode,, daily injects,, if that happened every time I'd never touch it,, but like I've said, tren has no equal in the steroid world.

So glad I don't get that. I once got a slight cough and that intense metallic taste bubbling up in my throat off of a test prop pin but never had it again.

I've shifted my workouts back to mornings/afternoons and now with the lower carbs at night I've noticed significantly less sweating at night. I still get very hot but don't actually sweat. And this is after upping it to 600mg per week. Although the 94% humidity here lately has had me sweating within under a minute of going outside. It's brutal.

Ohh yeah.... FUCK THIS HEART BURN!!! How many of you guys are getting it? That mother fucker just crept up on me this week. I thought it was just a freak occurrence but dang, 4 days in and my vocal chords are taking a serious beating. Tomorrow AM I am starting Prilocec, forget all this.

I think I am being a little sensitive too this past week but keep it well under control with the Yoga breathing. Nothing more cleansing than taking a few deep breaths.

I don't really have any heartburn on tren, or ever, but I've heard that glutamine helps. A lot of people say that tren pulls some of the glutamine from your stomach lining to send it to the muscles. How true that is I'm not sure, but regardless many swear that glutamine helps resolve the heartburn.

Weeks 7 and 8 you will be miserable and wishing you didn't run 600mg.

I frontloaded the first few pins actually so by now I should be at week 7 levels. But I'm sure I will still be miserable. Currently have no obligations other than summer classes and studying for CPA so I spend all day in the AC, otherwise I would be dosing 400-450mg.

And I'm aware that frontloading tren isn't normal and carries some risk for more sides, but I've run tren-A plenty of times and felt comfortable enough and prepared enough for the sides.

I've run tren ace before, I'm running tren E for the first time right now. 4 and a half weeks in.

I prefer tren E hands down (obviously use acetate for first run in case of unbearable sides) because the even blood levels are at least making the sides consistent. Whereas on tren A they are more extreme and erratic even on ED pinning.

I am experiencing stronger sides this time around because I'm pinning 600mg per week instead of 350mg per week. The three that I get are:

1) Sweating/heat. It's miserable at times, especially given weather today where it's 91 degrees AND 94% humidity. I avoid outdoors at all costs on these days, but if I need to be outside I can be, it's just that I'll be drenched immediately which is uncomfortable. Even in the AC I get major hot flashes/sweats after high carb meals.

2) Trensomnia. My sleep schedule has turned into going to bed at 11pm and always waking up between 2-230am wide awake. Can't fall back asleep until about 5am or so. I've accepted it at this point. I don't really get emotional problems on tren EXCEPT during my periods of insomnia from 2-5am. I'll get random anxious thoughts about gf cheating or be stressed over some deadline and it seems like a big problem but then I fall back asleep and wake up and realize how silly it is and have no issues during the day. I know it's just the tren & sleep deprivation so I don't act on the anxiety at all.

3) Nausea/loss of appetite - I normally fast for most of the morning and eat all my meals between 12pm - 9pm. On tren I can't do this and have to force small meals in because of the nausea. I was told this is because your body begins stripping glutamine from the lining of your stomach to send it to the muscles (because of tren's powerful nutrient partitioning), and that a surge of glutamine alleviates this. I've found that a protein shake or something similar can quickly resolve any nausea. But I have to force it down because of my loss of appetite which is constant (not complaining though because it helps my cut).

Perhaps these sound awful to you, or not bad at all. Personally I find it all to be tolerable, it has some really crappy moments but the gains I make in the process of it all make it well worth it.

I don't really have issues with cardio per se. I will find myself out of breath and sweating much earlier into a cardio session, but I am still capable of going the same distance and speed that I go without the tren. It's just more uncomfortable.

Video games are a nice hobby if you can prioritize them last. Took me years of being hooked before I could get to that point, but now if I have a Sunday evening to kill I have a lot more fun playing a few rounds of highly competitive CS with guys I've known for years online than I do laying on the couch watching Netflix.

It's funny though when I'm on cycle my desire to play competitive games skyrockets. Off cycle I mess around on single player RTS or don't take online games seriously but on cycle and I'm playing solely because I feel like beating people at something. Didn't notice this trend until I started my recent cycle and reflected back on things.

I play some Counter Strike:Global Offensive here and there. Straight skill based shooter that needs good teamwork & tactics. No killstreak bullshit or anything like that. Or I'll play Red Orchestra 2, basically a realistic WW2 shooter on the eastern front. I was a huge WoW player in high school but now I only play a few hours per week. I try to get back into games but just can't, they all become boring after an hour or a few days at most.

On cycle?

Just cueious, i would have c cups on that dose. Maybe what i have is fake or underdosed.

I think 12.5 eod is pretty standard. I typically dose that when I'm leaner, but when I'm coming off of a bulk I do 25mg eod in part because I'm heavier and aromatize a bit more but primarily because I don't like carrying the bloat. You may just be gyno prone, for most people you either are or aren't susceptible to it (unless you run very high doses without an AI then anyone can get it). Luckily I've never once felt nipple pain or tenderness.

Thanks, I'll plan on that but increase it if I need to. Adex gives me a nasty rebound effect, I imagine I'll need two days of 25mg at least to kill the rebound. I normally do 25 eod.

So I have some adex on hand, I used to use it as my main AI but switched to aromasin. I'd like to finish up the adex and get my money out of it, but obviously the rebound upon cessation of Adex is far from a fun time...I'm thinking I can use the adex as usual, and after I run out I can run some frequent aromasin to squash the rebound and then continue using aromasin.

The question is in the timing...of course I'll be able to watch my body and react accordingly, but I like to go in with a rough plan. So should I run the adex, and then say 2 days after stopping it run aromasin at 25mg per day for three days in a row, and then resume a normal aromasin dosing? Or would I begin the aromasin dosing immediately after stopping the adex?

So now I feel like a moron for promising bloods because this new doc I went to only ordered CBC and CMP bloodwork. The guy thought that's what I meant when I said I wanted everything tested including hormone levels and after laying into him he just kept saying he thought I meant enzymes and that I didn't look like I needed those checked (really doc???). Not happy about that at all, but that's what I get for believing online reviews of the place I suppose.

And all I can give now is anecdotal evidence that the gear is working. The Tren-E is certainly good to go, at 400mg per week it's already kicking my ass after high carb meals and giving me trensomnia, plus the insane pumps just from eating. All the sides I usually get. As for the Test-E, I know it's working because 1) Despite the tren I get a boner just from hitting a bump in the road in my car 2) I had a massive estrogen bloat just as I was beginning my AI. I consider myself to have an "average" aromatization, but this was way worse than anything I've had before. It could be unrelated, or it could be that the test is certainly dosed properly and was aromatizing already from the frontload.

All in all I would wager that the batch I got was dosed properly. The tren may be a bit overdosed (fine with me lol) because it's hitter me harder at 400mg than Tren A at 450mg did on my last cycle. The test could be slightly over or underdosed but it seems too close to 300mg/mL for me to sway either way. AGAIN THIS IS PURELY MY OPINION BASED ON PAST CYCLES, AND I'M WELL AWARE I HAVE NO FACTS TO BACK THIS UP. I had no intentions of being unable to deliver bloodwork, so I apologize for that, and I want to give all the information I can.

At the end of the day though, bloodwork doesn't lie, and the OP posted his and I don't have any to post. So for now he certainly has more credibility than I do. At this point I'm planning to just wait 6 weeks or so and I'll get them again, I'll be back in my hometown and able to use my regular doctor. And if I'm going to fork over the cash for bloods again I'd rather do it in a while when it will be a meaningful check of my overall health as well and by then I should certainly be seeing high test levels.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't only the test show up on blood work and not the tren ?

This is what I thought. From my research, tren will not affect T levels on a blood test. Although I'm by no means an expert on the chemistry of it all, that comes from some knowledgeable members on other boards. I have heard that there are some compounds other than straight testosterone that can appear as test on bloodwork, but tren is not one of them. If Tren did boost test levels, then why wouldn't a tren only cycle be plausible? Instead, tren only cycles will suppress you faster than you can put the bandaid on after your first pin of it.

Also still waiting on the bloods, doctor called again yesterday and I could tell he was a bit pissed at LabCorp because they're way behind on bloodwork for all of his patients. This is the first time I've ever waited more than a day, but nonetheless I will post them when I get them.

Just an update, doc called today and said the lab must be backed up. Hopefully will get the bloodwork tomorrow.

Cool man, I'll be looking forward to your results. Based on your front load you should definitely have a significant elevation in blood levels even after only 2 weeks.

 

When did you get blood drawn in relation to your last pin ?

Got it drawn Thursday evening. Today would be two weeks since the first pin so we're looking at bloodwork done 12 days into cycle.

Also have been pinning his Tren E at 400mg per week. Last pin was Thursday afternoon. Should be an interesting convo with the doctor as always when he reads results.