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On 2/3/2024 at 1:54 PM, DFL said:

Optitropin is out of stock but we are in the process of restocking. It will be about 1-2 weeks.

regards,

D.

Noooooo 🥹😖

DFL, are you no longer carrying drol?  Or just out currently?

Man, halotestin....been a long time since I've had any of that.  I think about 10 years now; 8-10 years or so.  I remember the last time I had any was shortly before St****o got busted.

Epic preworkout IMO.  Also really shortened my fuse.

How do you guys typically run GH?  ED & 5 on/2 off seems to have been the standard (or a similar idea where the two days off a not sequential -> 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off).  Although it seems EOD has picked up the last few years from what I've been reading. 

I've been doing EOD (1st run for me here) @ 4IU split 50/50 AM/PM, so basically 2IU/day as essentially a replacement dose just to start out with.

On 9/11/2023 at 5:30 PM, DFL said:

Ok, so you put 1cc/1ml of bac water into each GH vial. 1cc/1ml = 100 units/ius. So now, the 10 mark will be 1 iu, 20 mark will be 2 ius, 30 mark will be 3 ius and so on. There is actually 12 ius in these GH vials so your going to get a littler more than 1iu per 10 unit mark on the insulin syringe. But just assume its 1iu. So, on your insulin syringe, you draw the water to 100 units/iu mark then inject that water into a single GH vial, make sure to run the water down the side of the vial and not let the water stream squirt directly onto the GH puck as it can damage it. Then gently roll the GH vial in between your hands until the puck is dissolved. DO NOT shake the vial as that can also damage the GH.

 

Also, make sure you are only reconstituting one GH vial at a time as you use it.

On 9/11/2023 at 6:06 PM, Pupeye said:

To make things simple,  you can divide each vial into any # of shots.   12iu divided by #shots = dosage.

So a 12 iu vial will equal 

1 shot = 12iu dose

2 shot = 6 iu

3 shots= 4iu

4 shots = 3iu

5 shots = 2.4iu

6 shots= 2iu

 

Take the # of shots  and then add an amount of bac water that is easily divisible by that number.  You don't have to do 1cc (100 units) of water.  if you want to do 4 shots of 3iu then you can add .8ml (80 units) of water and measure .2ml(20 units)  for each dose. (80÷4=20) 

 For a 2iu dose (6 shots) you can add 60 units of water(10 units dosage),  90 units of water(15unit dosage) or 120 units of water(20 units dosage)

Use a small syringe for small  shots .3cc or .5cc syringe. easy to measure. 

Thanks for these.  I have a degree in biochemistry/molecular biology & I've done this stuff countless times, but for some reason, I always second guess my calculations & concentrations.  😅

Not exactly the same, but aspects of it will certainly apply to you post-op.

I broke my 2nd metatarsal about a year ago.  Was in a boot for a while, got out of it, & then I ended up back in there with a 3rd metatarsal fracture in the same foot.  I just got out of the boot mid July.  So I was in that damn CAM fracture boot for almost a fucking year.  I don't remember exactly how long it was from getting out of the boot due to the 2nd metatarsal fracture until I was back in it for the 3rd metatarsal, but it was not very long - just a few weeks.  MAYBE a month, tops.  So it was a good nine-ish months total.  And bone should really heal in about 6-8 weeks.  So it took me wayyyyyy longer to heal up. But I was working a job where I was constantly up on it for 9+ hours; I was basically always there past the end of my shift.  Sometimes only abut 15 minutes; sometimes up to an hour, hour & a half, probably close to two hours on occasion.

Take some time post-op to just chill.  Don't go try to lift for a while afterwards.  At all.  Just let yourself start the healing process.  Give it a week & a half, two weeks or so & then get back in the weight room & just do what you can.  You can still train upper stuff obviously.  But make sure you train your non-injured side for lower.  The "cross-over," "contralateral," "cross-education," "interlimb transfer," whatever term you want to use, is well documented.  Here's a study I found via a quick Google search about it: https://journals.physiology.org/doi/pdf/10.1152/japplphysiol.01016.2017.  You can find countless other studies.  The magnitude of the effect, which varies among studies, is up for debate.  I have seen up to around 15% though.

You will lose strength & size, obviously.  You know that.  But training your uninjured, unoperated-on side will help slow the muscle loss & strength loss on your other leg.  And you will still be able to do leg extensions, leg curls, & similar.  I have spent the last 2.5+ years injured or otherwise incapacitated in some fashion (surgeries & chemotherapy).  I trained my uninjured side after my biceps rupture & while my foot was broken in two places.  Even now, I STILL have people who will come up to me & comment about my calves & ask me what I do.  Funny thing is, I do next to nothing for them lol.  I guess my parents just gave me really good calf genetics because I've never done any sort of intense calf work.  Just a few sets of whatever raises here & there.  Although because I spent about a year in a fracture boot, I am going to be spending more time on them.  I really do not want to pull an Aaron Rodgers here.

Just do what you can.  But don't go crazy on anything.  Your body needs to direct resources to healing your ankle/surgical site.  It sucks watching yourself essentially waste away & lose the strength & mass that you have worked so hard to develop - trust me, I know that all too well unfortunately, but you will come back from it.  I just ruptured my teres major & have been trying to decide if I will be having surgery to fix it.  I am pretty sure I will not be going under the knife again & will just leave it as is.  But now, I have to back off everything again because there was some damage done to my lat tendon as well (the lat & teres major tendons join for a short distance before inserting on the humerus in some people & apparently I am one of those people) & I've been having some pain in my triceps.  I actually was just in to see ortho earlier today & they basically said what I had been thinking with regards to the triceps pain - I have the pain there just because that is right near where the teres major tendon inserts on the humerus.  I've done a whopping 10lbs & 15lbs on lat pulldowns & rows.  And that is a big hit to me since I was moving almost the entire weight stack on cable rows; & that is with very strict form.  And now I can't do my weighted pullups.  I barbell front squatted & back squatted against bands on Saturday & did a 5x5 with a monster (🤣) 255lbs & then worked up to a few singles with 325lbs on Monday (yesterday) with no issue.  But when I went to do RDLs on Saturday & conventional deadlifts yesterday, I was fine with 135lbs warmups, but when I moved up to 185lbs, I had to cut the set for both RDLs & conventional after 2 & 1 reps on Saturday & Monday respectively because I started getting pain around where my teres major is currently balled up in my back & around the top of my lat.  So I'm going to give it a few weeks & then start doing high rep RDL/conventional deads.  I am thinking I might start with literally only the 25lb bumpers, so 95lbs total.  95lbs deadlifts...what a joke; I am going to feel like such a bitch, but it is what it is I guess.  Apparently about 6 months for me to recover fully & be completely good to go if I go the non-surgery route.

Like I said, just do what you can.  You've been doing this a while, so I'm sure you know how to work around injuries.  Listen to your doctors & PT(s) -  at least initially.  Once you get a bit out from the operation, you might want to very carefully start going off on your own.  Only reason I say that is because, in my experience, a lot of places are too conservative with their rehab protocol progression.  But the place I've been working with is slow with making any sort of changes.  I worked for them for a few years on two separate occasions so I know they take forever to make changes, even safety related changes.  They spent literally years trying out safety syringes at their ambulance service while I was working for them in said ambulance service.  And their distal biceps tendon rehab protocol was just INSANELY conservative.  If you do that & kind of go off on your own, just do your research & be smart about what you're doing.  I started curling with just my hand/forearm.  And then since I have a set of fractional plates, I just added 0.25lbs...1/4 of a pound at a time every few days.  And remember that rehab protocols are designed to get people back to basic functioning.  And they are designed for people who typically are not very motivated to get better.  You will be motivated to get better, so don't be afraid to go off on your own a bit during rehab.

Look into things to help you heal.  I ran BPC-157, TB-500, CJC, & Ipamorelin after my biceps rupture.  I put about $5-6000 worth of BPC-157 & TB-500 into my arm.  Seems like it helped.  I won't waste space going into the details on that, but I started curling @ 6 weeks instead of the 12 weeks I was supposed to wait.  I am really thinking I'm going to use GH here.  I've already reached out to someone about it.  But growth has been shown to increase the rate of bone regeneration.  I am not sure if there are peptides that help with your injury/surgery like there is for tendons though.

I apologize for this massive wall of text.  And for dumping some of my BS onto you guys.  Also apologize if this is kind of incoherent, random, scatterbrained, etc.  I've just started a new Rx recently & it's been making me a bit...scatterbrained I guess, like I said. 

Let me know if you have any questions about anything I've brought up.  I'll try to help & offer as much advice as I can.  Like I said, I know the injury thing all too well unfortunately.  It's been a rough 2.5 years medically & because of multiple other things like the harassment I've been on the receiving end of at work & a few other major life issues.

3 hours ago, DFL said:

Good to see you still around brother and thank you for the kind words. Always greatly appreciated.

 

About to post a new Sale too, so take advantage!

I remember boards names very well and definitely do remember you. Always a pleasure doing business on our end as well.

 

And I feel you on getting sick. I was rocking along with my Primo, Test and Var cycle and got a mild flu last week that threw a wrench in my shit. You'll definitely bounce back though. You've definitely been through a lot more than I have, thats for damn sure. Only way is up though brother!

Familiar names do keep popping up. Good to see you back around brother and thank you for the kind words as well. We took a little break as well but we're back and better than ever.

Very true.  This leave of absence from work has helped a lot.  Made a lot of progress on some of these issues I have.  It's been longer than initially planned, with the COVID & whatnot, & I'm negative in PTO now lol, but it'll be fine.

I tell yah, the physical fatigue & mental fog were horrid.  I was wondering what the hell was wrong with me - I was expecting to feel not that great during part of this, but not that bad.  Finally went to get the PCR test & understood why I was feeling so crappy.  It's kind of crazy too, because i didn't even realize how foggy/cloudy/shitty my thinking was until Thursday morning when it finally cleared & I could think sooooo much clearer.  That migraine or tension headache or whatever it was was pretty bad too.  Had that for like an entire 3-4 days just because of the pressure in my head.  Spent Sunday to Wednesday of last week laying on the couch all day doing absolutely nothing except feeling shitty lol.

12 hours ago, squat said:

Been nearly 3 weeks since I sent Vision payment. Have heard back nothing and received nothing. No confirmation of payment no updates. Nothing. Either something is wrong with him or I've been screwed. Very disappointing. 

Damn, I hope it shows up.

For what it's worth, the last time I worked with Vision, it did show up.  It was a few weeks (I think about 3, maybe closer to 4) & I could not get a response with any update after funds were sent.  I knew it had gone out because of Informed Delivery, so I was able to check it, but Vision himself never sent a tracking number (& I know some sources don't, which is fine) or let me know it had gone out.  Just popped up in ID & then showed up. 

On 5/17/2023 at 6:23 PM, irishone said:

So glad to see you back!!!! One of the best out there!!!! Will be messaging you next week!!! What a relief to see you still around!!! 

Still top notch.

Very communicative & helpful as always.  Even with someone like me who makes little baby orders most of the time.  When he says that he is seeing "familiar faces popping up" I'm pretty sure he's serious.  I had mentioned he probably wouldn't remember something because I usually don't make big orders/am not a big shot purchaser, but I'm pretty sure he actually legitimately remembered me.

Put on about 12lbs in two weeks while on (mostly) his products (test is Caxxis).  I've not been doing very good the last 10-ish months & by extension, the last 2.25-ish years (lots of serious medical issues - cancer/surgery/chemo, distal biceps tendon rupture & surgery, foot is currently broken in two places; then a bunch of other non-medical BS issues) & kind of fell off with training & food, especially the last 7 months or so (that 2nd broken metatarsal got me I think...).  I took a leave of absence from work a few weeks ago to try to get multiple problems in my life taken care of & have been training properly & eating more properly & like I said, packed on about 12 lbs in two weeks.   Course, then I got COVID last week (positive PCR test mid this week) & ate probably like 1500 calories tops over the worst 4 days; I weighed myself at the weight room yesterday & I'm down 8lbs of those 12lbs - lol, fucking fail.  But D's products, especially that anadrol, will help address that lol.

On 3/30/2023 at 6:25 PM, pg4477 said:

Been on a long hiatus I think the last time I ordered was early 2021 but I feel the need to chime in because I see a lot of sour complaints from what it looks like young obnoxious shit heads very similar to how I used to be in my early 20's. Vision is a stand up guy and his gear is top notch quality at great prices. People complaining about your 2 week wait time.. take your AI and chill out. 

I don't think anyone is complaining about the wait.  The complaints are that he is not (was not, at least) responding to emails after payment was sent.  So people are (were) getting replies during the ordering process, but then nothing after they sent payment.  Little odd.  And a little worrisome.  Personally, I like to confirm that funds were received so that I know they were received & if nor received, I can try to remedy the issue to prevent a hold up with it going out.  It's not hard to shoot an email saying "Hi, yes funds were received.  Order will go out within the next 2-3 days."  Or "yes, funds were received, but we are about a week behind; your order will go out at the start of next week."  If there's a delay for some reason, fine.  But at least tell me that so that I know when I should be looking out.  I don't even need to know the reason - just tell me you have the payment & you're behind & are working on it.

Two weeks with no confirmation of payment, no confirmation of the order being shipped, no response of any kind is, IMO, unacceptable.  These are not international orders.  Two weeks on an international order?  Pssshhh, sure, OK.  Two weeks on a domestic order with no communication whatsoever after I have sent you money...well, I don't like that.  Especially when I know nothing has been shipped to me.  And I know nothing was sent out because every address that I use to receive any packages has Informed Delivery set up on it.  So I don't need to be given a tracking number to know whether or not it was sent because anything sent to any address with Informed Delivery on it will show up in Informed Delivery automatically.  Like I said, if you're behind, that's fine (usually - sometimes I run low on stuff), but tell your customers that so they know what's up.  I've had Synergy tell me more than once that he was behind & that if I placed an order, it would take a while to go out.  Then I can decide if I want to wait (& usually I do because Syn's stuff is great) or if I need to or want to go somewhere else (because I ran low/thought I had more left than I do).

You're right.  The quality of the gear seems quite good.  The communication, at least after people have sent funds, not so great as of late (or at least around the time the posts in question were made).  I would love to use Vision again, but if this communication issue has persisted, I just cannot do it.  The other sponsors on here - Caxxis, DFL, Synergy - all respond to emails in a very timely fashion.  Typically no longer than 24 hours & I have gotten responses from all of them in just a few hours & sometimes in less than an hour  And the gear from each one of those three sponsors is top-notch as well.  If the choice is quality product with little to no communication where I have no idea what the hell is going on with an order or quality product with great communication, I'm gonna choose the latter.

Like I said, I would love to use Vision again.  I was very happy with the products I received.  If this communication issue has been resolved, I would be willing to order right now.  But if not, I have no choice but to take my time & money elsewhere.

Maybe I am alone in these sentiments, who knows?

Probably tons of people....absolutely bitchin' product! 🤤😁🤗🤘👍

On 12/13/2022 at 2:57 PM, roaddog said:

Odd I have not heard from him since I did something it’s been more than a week 

The last time I hypothetically "ordered," I didn't hear back even after two or three additional emails beyond information.  I was just checking in at over a week/week & a half/two-ish weeks to see if it had gone out.  It eventually (again, hypothetically 😆) showed up. This was back in summer some time I think.

Disappointed to see this communication issue is still an issue. 

I heard there was some issue with HCG.

I've used ReliableRx or their sister AllDayChemist (it's apparently the same people).  But recently I've started using Gym Pharmacy - they have a much better selection IMO.  And there is a subreddit with a rep that posts on there.  I also used DashPCT recently.  I think they also have a subreddit & they have a domestic section.  More expensive obviously, but sort of faster.  I say sort of because the shipping itself was relatively quick, but they took a good 4-5 days I believe it was to actually get it together & sent out.

CBL retired a long time ago.  I think there were some problems at the end.

Dictator had some issues near the end too - I don't recall exactly what they were; something about a laptop & traveling or something.  But he then disappeared.

DFL retired, but then he came back.  He was here briefly, but then his section/thread disappeared.

On 7/17/2022 at 9:47 AM, Joe_Caxxis said:

!! Oh I know. Chuck. First time is a bit of a fumble 😄
2nd time you'll wonder what all the fuss was about... and why you ever used WU!

LMAO, this is so true.  I remember the first time I used BTC for a transaction, I was all nervous & worried that I was going to fuck it up.  But now I hate doing anything other than BTC.

It's even easier now with some of these financial apps like CashApp - makes it so insanely easy to do.  Just make sure you C/P the receiving address; I don't think anyone would type it by hand anyway, but the only PITA is having to get into secure email on my phone to C/P the receiver's BTC address into CashApp.  But way less of a PITA than any other payment method, including CIM IMO,

On 7/16/2022 at 7:39 AM, killafromnyc said:

Another order landed, Vision is gtg as usual

Man, you're braver than I am ordering again so soon lol.

I would have loved to order more, but i didn't want to deal with weeks of little to no communication & wondering if/when it would show up.  Maybe next time.

On 6/29/2022 at 11:35 PM, champ0505 said:

Pack landed couple days after last post. Took quite awhile but nonetheless order received in full.

Glad everything worked out.

It'd be nice if he posted what is going on though.  And if things have or will improve in the near future.

My thing is taken care of.  Took too long IMO, but it is what it is I guess.  I do find the "sent funds but no more communication despite communication with other people who have not yet paid" a tad concerning though.

He said he's been slammed, so I hope this lack of communication is just trying to get stuff out/trying to keep up, but I feel that at two weeks with nothing, a reply with an update is warranted.

Anyone heard from him recently?  Was communicating with him about a week & a half ago & nothing now....sent a followup email just the other day, but nothing in response to that as well.  Nothing is on the way to me either.  Getting a tad nervous...

So I realize this thread is old, but has anyone been in contact with Greek God?  People in here said he went private.  Just wondering if he still has good product?  Synergy is out & I have a few other contacts, but it'd be nice to have another.  I still have his contact info, although it could be an old one, not sure.  Anyone know what's up?

This tends to be an issue for some people.  I've been running anavar during my recovery for its purported healing properties & I had to resort to Zantac 360 multiple times because it was so bad.  I would have used Ranitidine, but they pulled that from the market due to the cancer risk - maybe that's why I got cancer...?  Ranitidine was my go to for heartburn a long time ago before I learned that antacids are bad & generally make reflux worse.  Probably not, but who knows? 

The vast majority of heartburn cases are caused by not enough stomach acid, not too much.  OIten times taking apple cider vinegar or betaine HCl will fix heartburn despite the fact that it sounds wrong.  I am not sure if that rings true for those who are using oral hormones though.  Normally heartburn will result in me taking betaine HCl, but it was so bad I was too scared to risk adding more acid.  99% of these times were when I was at work; had I been at home I likely would have tried the betaine HCl or APC tablets first instead.

On 1/27/2022 at 3:16 PM, cuz said:

What were the complications that prolonged the surgery?  I wouldn't try to speed recovery up.  This injury takes time to heal.

They nicked my artery open - punched a little hole in it.  My bicep didn't pop all the way up to my shoulder despite the fact that it was a complete rupture.  It kinda got stuck a little above my elbow/antecubital fossa.  So my bicep actually didn't look all that different.  That very low portion of my bicep where it extends down towards the elbow & forearm was gone & I could tell that the tendon & part of my bicep were kind of bunched up about 1.5 inches above my antecubital fossa.  It looked so normal that 99.999% of people probably wouldn't even noticed it wasn't right if I didn't point it out to them.  But the tendon then basically scarred to the side of my artery wall, so when they were working on freeing the tendon from the scar tissue, artery opened up.  They got the bleeding to stop but the blood flow to my hand was compromised so they called in a hand surgeon & a vascular surgeon & they then went & talked to my parents who drove out here for this & to help me for a few days post-op & my parents gave my surgeons the go ahead to do a vessel graft.  So they took this big, thick, beastly vein out of my forearm near my wrist to graft around that clotted opening in the artery.  I'm actually a little annoyed because that was a sick looking vein lol.  And I am guessing that the rest of that vein that moves proximal/up towards my shoulder is probably gone now too - not just the part they harvested for the graft.  But I can't tell yet because of the swelling. 

But it will be 3 weeks post op tomorrow (Thursday).  I'm doing OK I guess.  I got a green light to start actively using it a bit for the ROM stuff.  I'm still supposed to use my right hand to help assist, but I can start actually using my bicep to help flex my elbow.  I had almost full extension at day 13 when the splint came off & I have basically full extension as of Tuesday or I'm about as close to full extension as you can be without actually being at full extension.  I just want to play guitar properly (I can play a bit, but I can't jump around & I can't really get below the 10th fret.  I pretty much hang out around the 12th fret - been playing the "vomit riff" from Lamb of God's Hourglass a lot lol) & lift the way I want -  I want to squat & deadlift so bad lol.  In 2-3 weeks, I should be able to start using the safety squat bar.  Oh & being able to wash my hands properly would be nice too.  But all in due time I guess. 

I'm actually very interested to know if or how much the chemotherapy played into this.  There's not a whole lot about that online though.  But given how horrible & destructive those literal poisons are to the human body & some anecdotal accounts I've found Googling about this, I'm inclined to believer it was a factor.  I don't think the chemotherapy was the main cause or even a significant factor, but I think it played a minor role at least.

The atrophy is killer BTW. 😅😳🥺😭

Depends on each location.  Some are good, others suck.  Every Anytime Fitness I've lifted at has had at least one rack/cage & at least one bench.  SNAP Fitness locations usually don't have those. 

But like wallyd said, they don't compare to serious gyms at all.

For what specifically?

I use Bodybuilder's Bodywash (I hate the name though lol).  Always after lifting.  Or anything where I was sweating a lot.  Otherwise I just use Old Spice Hydrowash.  I used to only use the Bodybuilder's Bodywash, but @ ~$20/bottle, I decided to back off a bit on the usage.  I also use Regenepure products for my hair.  I used them years ago but stopped.  Picked them up again once I finished chemotherapy 6ish months ago to help my hair regrow.  Also a bit expensive though.

Other than that I just use like the men's Nivea or Neutrogena face wash.  And I have some Dove face lotion in that little pump bottle.  O'Keeffe's hand products cuz my hands will get sooooo dry & crack when its cold like this.  Although I just got Cyprès Ultra-Hydrating Hand Crème as a gift that seems pretty nice so far (https://www.naturalinspirations.com/all-products/cypres-boxed-hand-creme).

Then kind of whatever for moisturizing - again, my skin will get dry during the winter; mainly hands & back of my arms (& sometimes my cheeks)..  AmLactin, Gold Bond, Eucerin; basically whatever is on sale or I can find a coupon for or Target Circle deal or whatever for.

Well, I got into the OR after a COVID cancellation back on Wednesday.  Surgical complication turned a roughly one hour surgery into a 6+ hour operation.😅  Then I had to stay about 2.5 days in the hospital which sucked super bad lol. 

Got a bunch of BPC-157, TB-500, & a CJC/Ipamorelin blend to help speed up recovery.  Also going to keep my nandrolone dose up there.  Any other recovery advice or tips would be appreciated.

EDIT: also, any tips for doing subq injections with one hand would be awesome.  I had to use a chip clip to pinch my skin up near the incision site lmao.

On 1/15/2022 at 7:06 PM, pooh6369 said:

Had a proximal tear from the shoulder plus I tore my rotator cuff workman's comp injury.

Had the surgeries at 5 weeks later. I'll be a week 12 post surgery next week should get the go ahead to go to the gym again. Just been doing band work.

Gotta be patient check your ego when your starting back from the surgery. Do the rehab, tons of YouTube videos at home band work for surgically repaired biceps. Good luck hope for a good recovery

I finished chemotherapy back mid-summer.  I didn't lose a ton of muscle, but my strength just went down the shitter my last cycle.  I started back @ 185x5 for 3 or 4 sets on bench.  I could have started a little higher, but I like to start a little lighter than necessary after time off or a deload or just switching up programming or whatever.  Starting back with a weight that is about 50% of what you were throwing up for multiple, easy singles is a bit humbling lol.  Usually I throw up 225 for two doubles as part of my warmups as I work up & drop back down to 225 to rep it out after my heavier work, & I remember my first bench day back that I went to do that 225 double warmup, they were slow as molasses, & I am pretty sure I would have gotten stapled had I gone for a third lol.  Same thing with squats & deadlifts....235lbs warmup triple - felt heavy as shit.  Actually working to deadlift 405lbs?  Sucks when just 2-3 months ago you were absolutely ripping that shit off the ground with just a regular double overhand grip.  Grip still isn't back to what it was.  I've always held back a little bit with this game.  Because I'd like to be able to still do this stuff decades from now & also to try to help avoid, well, these types of situations.

You haven't been in since?  I got home from there about an hour ago.  I guess it's going to be lots of lower for a few months lol.  Errr well, I have 3 lower days as is, so I guess a little bit more lower.  🤣  Although now I'm nervous as shit before & during every set lol.  Last thing I need is to fuck up my quad & then I'm stuck in the leg press with a fucked quad & a fucked bicep & can't get out lol. 🤣🤣How'd you do yours?  Mine was the cybex preacher curl machine, single arm with the hand basically fully supinated, sets of 5-6 ideally, first work set with 70lbs.  Looking back, maybe not my brightest idea ever lol.  Right side went OK, but the left.....I literally saw, felt, & heard that shit rip before I flexed my elbow up to even 10-15°.

On 1/14/2022 at 2:02 PM, WOODARD said:

The quicker you can get it done the better.  A close friend of mine had a full tear of his and long story short he got dicked around by our employer but after 5 months of back and forth he finally got surgery.  Got a cadaver tendon and he still isn't right 8 months later.  Obviously it goes without saying to baby that shit as best you can.  Get seen as soon as you can.  The longer the wait the list of surgeons able to correct it goes down considerably.  At least that's the case in my area.  Sorry to hear of your injury bro.  Best of luck and hope for a good outcome and speedy recovery!

That is what I've been reading.  Within ideally 2 weeks, 3 at the most.  Seems like the consensus is success goes down the longer surgery is put off, although my mom did send me a case study of distal bicep tendon repairs within 4 weeks vs up to I think 12 weeks out that showed little difference in the surgical results.  Super small sample size though - I think it was only 18 patients. 

I am having a hell of a time getting seen.  The main medical institute here apparently can't seem me before February 1st, which is outside that "ideal" window.  And that's not surgery on February 1st - that's just the consultation  This is after the doctors (supposedly) looked at my X-rays & the ultrasound from the ER (which was largely a gigantic waste of my time).  The ultrasound chick even went to get another, higher up doctor who takes an interest in these types of injuries, & she wrote up a report on it.  I got an MRI moved up from February 1st to the other day & orthopedics was supposed to call me back before the end of the day on Friday, but I never heard back.  The MRIs were I think not resulted out yet though - I got a notification of a new test result at like 0347 or something Saturday morning, which was the MRI, so maybe I will hear something tomorrow morning.  I don't understand how they do NOT have a doctor set aside to deal with emergency type things like this....But I have located a few surgeons ~90-100 minutes away that I am planning to call as soon as they open tomorrow morning, as well as the other local medical institution.  Looking at places in the opposite direction of those two & all the way out to my hometown area which is about 250 miles away from where I am.  I'm going to get a overnight/few overnights bag ready tonight with some clothes, hygiene stuff, & other essentials just in case because I am planning to drop everything & drive the second I hear someone can see me to get this looked at if need be. 

The whole thing is pissing me off.  And adding unneeded additional stress.  I remember when my dad broke his ankle on the hill in our (or I guess their, my parent's) backyard like two decades ago, they had an orthopedic surgeon for him right away.  I wasn't there for this because I was either just born or about to be born, but I know the same thing happened when he got hit by a drunk driver (HIM, not his car) on the freeway & ended up with an open tib-fib fracture among other less serious injuries.  Like I said, I just don't get it.  Don't even try to tell me you don't have some 60 or 70 year old patient who's getting a knee replacement that you can't bump a week.  I'm not asking for special treatment or anything, or think I'm more important than anyone else, but it's called triage - & it's part of their job, so WTF?  Tell a guy in their thirties, & not even taking into consideration that said guy is a strength athlete & a guitarist/musician to sit on a potentially life altering injury for weeks....just what?  If this doesn't get fixed properly, then I have to live with it for the next 30, 40, 50+ years.

Kind of went off there, but I am frustrated.