Nerve

Like NC said, you answered your own question OP. I have to agree with him on his other points as well.

And 1cc three times per week is NOT a "tremendous amount of oil" lol...not even close. I've pinned close to or equal to 3cc in one day before. Hell, if you add in the test base, then it gets close to 4mL per day sometimes.

Nerve, I do not understand your post ?? Tren Base and Tren suspension are the same thing......just the parent compound Trenbolone with no ester attached.

Oh, I thought he was selling it in oil & then in water as well. My mistake.

Goddamn....tren base & tren suspension? I'm going to have to try some of these. Been waiting for an opportunity to for a long, long time. There was some guy here a while back who had it (AG - aggressive something - growth I think?). I had emailed him, but never heard back.

Why even go see him again?

So anytime your PCP mentions something or starts a conversation you don't like or that makes you nervous or uncomfortable, you just say screw him/her & go find a new doctor?

I run 240-250mg/week of deca with my TRT (just depends on if I have 300mg/mL or 250mg/mL concentration deca).

But I will echo what others said...TRT is TRT. If you start adding stuff I wouldn't call it "true" TRT anymore. 100-200mg/week to put you in the normal range...maybe just a touch more to put you slightly above the top end of normal, but not much more than that. I really stress the slightly.

Most likely a fat nerd..the kind that's so fat he wear shorts in the dead of winter, long black socks with his Birkenstock sandals, Still Lives with mom in his early 30's. Has had sex a few times but the girls were so drunk they don't remember and were probably twice his age and obese.... has a long beard that hasn't been washed in months and spends 14 hours of the day playing video games in between masturbation sessions and only listens to RAP...LOL

I've probably come close to describing 85% of the guys on this board!

Hey, what's wrong with that? I totally do this; went out to the store about 2 weeks ago with shorts on when it was around -15 below (just air temp)...admittedly it was a tit bit nipply out there lol.

I love anadrol too. Helps me get stronger noticeably quicker. But I love halo even more.

I stick to basic compounds that compliment what I want.

 

My repertoire these days consists of these compounds.

 

Test cyp,

test ace, my favorite sort ester

masteron prop

proviron

tbol

anavar

HGH

 

As a lot of you know, over the years I have used just about every compound out there. I think when your young and invincible, its not as much an issue. But as you get older the body has taken a toll sometimes. You develop sleep apnea, high hematocrit for years and years of gear abuse and high doses, ect ect.

 

I have learned from some OLD friends in this business, to slow down into the 50s, and 60s age range. Losing some mass seriously helped get rid of sleep apnea. High hematocrit, if not dealt with is a killer, and so on and so on. I plan to have a long life and not wear my heart out with blood pressure, sleep apnea, high hematocrit, or liver issues and on and on again.

 

I still run a decent amount of test, and enjoy adding in test ace or suspension here and there, when I feel like it. I love mast and proviron, as they are my AI when I use higher doses of test and mast makes me hard as fuck, fast. Tbol does not aromatize at all and is a great product. Anavar, well you know about that. Cialis is thrown in often at low dose as it keeps my blood pressure down and because of it, I do not have to take blood pressure meds at all, as I used to when on fuck high doses, including lots of tren as I used to do. Now I feel better, look great, have decent cardio, enough to do challenges like the tough mudder and bone frog, and can fuck like a teenager still. I do like keeping my test levels around 1200-1500 on average for my trt. I still plan to do small blast here and there, spring is around the corner, so I will be kicking it up just a couple notches soon, for about 8-10 weeks and then back to maintenance again.

 

There is something to be said for moderation. If you remember, my last big blast was about 4yrs ago, around 4 grams week of gear, and had test levels above 10K, with free test so high the manual dillusion test still couldnt measure it. But for me, I feel much better right now health wise and plan to stick with the basics I listed for the most part. Not saying I will not add others here or there, but have no real plan to anymore. I have no desire to compete again and have not for quite a few years now. So I see no real reason to pound my joints to death as well as my heart and other organs.

I see posts like this sometimes & think I should slow down a bit too. I'm only 27 though.

Do you have a sleep apnea diagnosis & a CPAP machine? I just started on CPAP back in August. I'm not even that big yet lol.

He is over at my other board. I personally never used his stuff. People on the board seem to like it and rave about it.

He used to be on IronLifter before that forum disappeared. I only used him once when I won an auction he ran. I got test E & deca I think. No complaints about either compound. Didn't notice any difference when I switched from another lab to his stuff & then when I switched from DYEL's stuff back to a different lab.

This was a few years ago, so good to know he's got good stuff still.

Just probably need to ice them a few times a day and take a few weeks off liftng. Also look into slingshot elbow bands. I use one on my left arm every time I lift.

The compression cuffs you mean? I have one of those that I wear on my left forearm sometimes, just below my elbow. I started having issues with a ridiculous amount of pain developing while training back (due to the stress on grip) that got to the point sometimes where it legit hurt to pick up a 5lb plate in the weight room.

Do you wear them actually over your elbows to basically help get some pop out of the bottom of the bench press for example? I was actually thinking about buying some new ones earlier today to use on occasion just for that purpose - to get some pop out of the bottom to help handle some heavier weights than I would normally be able to. Kind of a poor man's slingshot lol.

I definitely need to replace the compression cuff I have though...my skin is drying out again where I put the band. A little over a year ago the whole area got super, super dry & then it basically scabbed up. I think there's some bacteria or something living on that cuff lol. I'm not sure if I can just throw it in the washer so I haven't cleaned it since I got it which is admittedly pretty damn gross lol.

Yea that whole removal thing took me by surprise, it was only because of a board I am on and not my business practice, I guess they think if your over there you take every body that comes to you and that isn't the case with me, we check everyone out first before anything is talked about, I do understand where they were coming from because they are a private board. But on the note of that bold cyp, how is it treating you? I do tell everyone that some people say it has some pip to it, the degree is dependent on the person.

 

Thanks

TMM

Yeah but you don't even have to be a member of that board to see your and everybody else's list, contact info, reviews. And the owner "d red" is also a source with no control over what is sold on that board. That board is a big fed target just asking for trouble.

Yeah, this was largely the reason(s) why TMM.

We talked test base once over email...specifically your concentration. I ended up not pulling the trigger with you...not for any reason other than that concentration. I pin enough damn oil as it is & if I can pin 0.9cc as opposed to 1.9cc, I'd much rather do that. You ever consider offering both 50mg/mL & 100mg/mL concentration & allow the customer to choose whether they want to deal with the solvents? Although you (& your guys) have to work with the harsher solvent then as well, so...

dynasty was full of lies and excuses.. Im not even a brewer, and I know his methods of making blends was bullshit. Especially when he had his remailer supposedly doing it.. lets take 5 parts deca, 5 parts test enan, and mix together, and VOILA.. we have a deca/enan blend.. LMAO!

Lmao! Hilarious.

I thought (was hoping) he was trolling when he told us that. Couldn't believe it.

Slayer... its always Slayer :cool:

Always a good choice.

I'm at my parent's house right now for Christmas (I had to work Christmas day & I work every Sunday), so no training for me today. :(

Why not both?

I always keep 240-250mg/week of deca in with my TRT. I'm running 45mg/day (0.3cc/day) of NPP on top of it right now.

I've used TMM before. He was a source for awhile on another private board (he was removed due to perceived security issues because of another board he is/was on). Didn't have any real complaints. I got in on that 10 vial bulk deal he always has & bought a whole bunch of bold cyp - twas my first foray into bold cypionate land & now it's been over a year on bold cyp (I think actually close to or over 1.5 years now).

Good to see you over here.

I can tell you that even info was half clueless and had only basic information that what is pasted is wrong.

 

We are determining the half life of esters. An average ester vs a propionate ester for example. Look at how esters work and then look at the number of carbon atoms in those two alone. Then tell me you agree that it's remotely possible for a prop ester to break down faster than a lighter, ace ester. Sorry bro. But just that alone proves the info he listed is absolutely and scientifically inaccurate. You work in the medical field, verify what I just said without someone else's work. Go look at the actual molecular weight and then you will have no choice but to conclude the same. :)

 

Doesn't matter if it's 5 days or 2 weeks. Ace has a shorter half life than prop. Doesn't matter if the ester is attached to test or tren. It's the ester that breaks down and releases the hormone, and hence what we are discussing for calculation.

Ah, nice catch. I didn't see that. I loved Organic Chem when I took it (I anyway...I didn't like II as much lol). But yeah, more Cs = longer to cleave the entire thing.

I'll have to sit down & actually really read his reference because I never have. I only read the first part of his blog post way back when he first posted it.

Here's a link to the full PDF: https://www.mediafire.com/file/d948ivot9sqgt9e/Testosterone+Comparative+pharmacokinetics+of+testosterone+esters.pdf

Well that's not correct either. I have posted the formula to calculate half times based on atomic molecular weight. Use that to do the math and you will see, it's not less than a week for cyp or enanthate. It can vary slightly person to person though for several reasons. Everyone seems to want to read and someone else's work and take it for gospel, but few will actually do the science research and the math themselves to verify the data. That's the best way for any of us to learn, do the work.

 

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What I am referring to is how steroidcalc.com was redone. He posted a big explanation on his website a while back (can't find the page now) about how new data has shown that the time periods are shorter than orignally thought - apparently there were some calculation errors when the numbers were first figured out.

This is the list of half lifes that he used when he reconfigured the website:

Terminal Half-lives

Testosterone Propionate: 0.8 days

Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 1.5 days

Testosterone Isocaproate: 4.0 days

Testosterone Enanthate: 4.5 days

Testosterone Cypionate: 5.0 days

Testosterone Decanoate: 7.5 days

Testosterone Undecanoate: 20.9 days

Trenbolone Acetate: 1.0 days

Trenbolone Enanthate: 4.5 days

Masteron Propionate: 0.8 days

Masteron Enanthate: 4.5 days

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 1.5 days

Nandrolone Decanoate: 7.5 days

Equipoise: 14.0 days

Primobolan Oral: 5 hours

Primobolan Injectable: 4.5 days

Halotestin: 7 hours

Anadrol: 14 hours

Dianabol: 5 hours

Turinabol: 16 hours

Winstrol Oral: 8 hours

Winstrol Injectable: 1.0 days

Anavar: 10 hours

Superdrol: 10 hours

Reference he used:

Behre HM, Nieschlag E. 1998 Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone esters. In: Nieschlag E, Behre HM, eds. Testosterone: Action, Deficiency, Substitution, ed 2. Berlin: Springer-Verlag; 329–348.

Link to the paper - can't find a free copy of it. I might see if one of the directors for the clinical lab I work in can get me a full copy of this:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-72185-4_11

Agreed all work together well. Keep e2 in check and your golden. Ran this cycle lots of time and love it.

 

 

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Yeah, I B&C & I run 250-300mg of nandrolone decanoate year round. I've also kept a few hundred mg of tren E in as well for the last few years. Running NPP on top of that right now along with bold (both cyp & undecyl)

Tren and nandrolone (phenylprop or decanoate) together is fucking awesome.

Thank you for the good info. Unfortunately, the data about the Propionate and Acetate esters are wrong. Acetate is a 2 Carbon ester (shortest ester available, I have never known of any 1-C Formic Acid Esters, I don't think they exist) and has the shortest half-life of about 2 to 2.5 days. Propionate is a 3 Carbon ester with a longer half-life than Acetate, about 2.5 to 3.5 days.

 

The Dallas Cowboys will be Super Bowl Champions in Feb. 2019. Mark it on your calendar. Dumbbellpress is never wrong about anything.

That information is all over the web/forums. It has recently come out that those numbers are generally all wrong. For example, other than the prop & acetate esters you already mentioned, it's been determined that cypionate & enanthate are closer to 5 days than the 10-12 days people have been repeating for years.

Doesn't Rogaine do something to people's skin? I think I've heard complaints it makes people look older?

I used Regenepure DR shampoo for a while. I really liked it & it seemed to help. I also tried their other shampoo (Regenepure NT Nourishing Treatment) the second time I ordered from them.

I think when I was using both shampoos, I would use the DR every night or every other night & used the NT for any other time I showered (morning, post-training, etc.).

DR Shampoo: http://www.regenepure.com/regenepure-dr-doctor-recommended-shampoo.html

NT (nourishing treatment) shampoo: http://www.regenepure.com/regenepure-nt-nourishing-treatment-shampoo.html

IMHO, why would a sponsor even send anything without receiving payment first? Pay before you play, PERIOD.

It's called trust. Something that develops between people over long periods of time. I use a private sponsor over on a private board who sends me my stuff before he has my cash (hell before I even send my cash) every single time I order. I have another guy in China I order stuff from (not gear). He has fronted me multiple orders. Granted, usually he will only front me his minimum order requirement (although I have never asked for more than his minimum except for the last time - the last fronted order was the only exception thus far) but he & I have a very good relationship that spans several years now with me ALWAYS taking care of my part. When it comes to fronted orders, I have always paid him by the time I told him I would - usually earlier than I told him. And this guy has been burned by other people he fronted orders to, so I would understand if he didn't want to front me, but like I said - trust.

Updates on situation?

IDK what to tell you. But he sure as shit wasn't sitting in a McLaren while in prison.

Speaking of Strango... What is he up to these days? Is he living, or locked up?

I think he's out. I randomly looked up his instagram a few months ago & he had a couple recent pictures (about a week old tops when I looked) & one of them was him in a McLaren or some other expensive car.

That idiot GH15 also made a thread asking about Strango coming back as a source around that same time lmao.

Vis did the best he could to copy strango's list. It was on purpose to draw comparisons.

I did notice that about the list before he went private. Never got a chance to use his stuff but from what all memebers at my board were saying it was very good.Hope he is ok.

And why would he do that? I found out about the lists back when Strango got busted & someone told me about this VVL guy over on steroid-forums.com or wherever he was sourcing.

Some people speculated, including myself, that perhaps both Strango & Vis weren't making the products they sold, but were purchasing them, putting their own labels on, & then reselling.

As far as him being "OK," the guy got 3 years probation (he was lucky) as a result of a felony bribery charge related to a DUI case. No way he's getting off without time this go around.