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The oil is probably leaking out of the muscle & sitting subq, then starting to move down your arm under your skin.

How much oil are you putting in there? Find a picture on the internet and draw on it to show where you're injecting then upload it for us.

I like to leave the needle sit in me for a bit after I finish the injection to kind of let it spread out a little.

Nice to see you made it over here brother.

Yep, exactly the same. Happens when I sit up, sit down, tie my shoes, whatever. But like I said, only when I'm bulking. Once I lose enough belly fat on the cuts, they stop, no matter what drugs I'm on. Guess this is nature's way of telling me to not bulk so hard.

That's really interesting actually...I haven't had this happen for a few months now. I started eating a little less (more around maintenance) back at the end of February/early-mid March. But before I dropped calories it happened a few times over 2-3 months while I was eating above maintenance.

Wonder why this is.

I haven't noticed any relation to any hormones or other compounds either.

I use a lot of Taurine. I put 3g into my water bottle while I'm training & I put some in the water bottle I carry around with me during the day. Also take potassium in the morning & some magnesium when I remember (I have to take that at some random point during the day because I take things that affect magnesium absorption in the morning and at night - like zinc).

I get them in my abs a lot when bulking, but not cutting (from pretty much any compound, not just anavar). No amount of taurine made them go away. Oh well.

Man, every once in a while, I get these AWFUL ab cramps. Seriously some of the worst pain I've ever felt. I can feel the muscle all bunched up & twisted & I cannot do anything except stand there hyperventilating with my hand pressed against the spot. Fucking freaks me out. It just randomly happens too - like when I sit up while laying on the couch.

Interesting. I obtained some anavar raw a few weeks ago & started it on Saturday. I was pinning my glute last night & I could feel that my other leg was starting to head towards cramping.

What does of var are you using?

Sorry to hear about this Thaistick. Thoughts are with you & your family.

Can I ask what the drug was?

Just do 250IU twice a week.

And stop cycling/PCT'ing. It's stupid, a waste of money, & you take 3 steps forward then 2 steps right back. Eventually, you will take 1 step forward, then 1 step backwards. All the while throwing yourself on a hormonal rollercoaster. Blast & cruise is the way to go. Probably one of the best decisions I've made.

Does tbol thin your blood??

I'm assuming that's what it was doing, but I don't have concrete proof but I seriously can't pick my nose while using it.

It's probably bumping your BP up & making you more susceptible to nosebleeds. Then you bust it open when you jam your finger up there lol.

Tbol & var sound awesome together. I ran tbol for the first time a few months ago. I liked it...would definitely run it again. And I absolutely love var. I'm actually planning to touch some high doses of var - 125-150mg/day. See how that treats me. Just hoping my anavar is legit lol. I bought the raw from a contact I have for something else overseas.

I forget who mentioned it but when you feel tren cough coming on take an alcohol wipe and inhale the fumes from that a few times and it lessens the length and severity of the cough. I tried it for the first time the other day and while breathing in isopropyl alcohol isn't pleasant, it's better than a full blown tren cough.

I've mentioned that a few times on several boards, although I'm sure I'm not the only one. Alcohol is a mild bronchodilator, which is why it helps a little bit. A bottle of isopropyl alcohol works too - probably better than an alcohol swab. I've also recommended the head in the freezer thing that someone else mentioned ITT. Nice thing about the freezer is that it helps cool you down as well (I get warm & sweat when this happens).

For the OP, it's tren. So it'll be very similar to your experiences with the enanthate ester. Dose adjustments will "take effect" quicker because of the shorter ester. Also, theoretically, since the parent hormone is the same, the results should be the same. My own experiences, as well as others, say that this is not the case & I/we can notice some subtle differences between the acetate & enanthate ester. For me, the enanthate ester seems to give me better strength gains as well as an overall thicker appearance. I've discussed this with several other people & they have said the same thing. This is why I like using both esters at the same time. Currently using 450mg tren E + 280mg tren A every week (plus a few other things).

Yep, it's fucked up. How some people have been convinced that this bullshit is normal behavior is beyond me. The newest revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders has removed this crap as a diagnosis.

I have a couple TheraPearl packs. You can put them in the freezer & use them as ice packs, or you can heat them up in the microwave to use heat therapy. So I heat them up in the microwave, fold the pack over the vial & heat it that way. Then shake it occasionally & recover it with the therapearl pack until it's good to go. You could also use this for the syringe.

I wouldn't want to do anything with water once it's in a syringe.

I'm going to try the caber and see if it's legit or not. I've spent more than what they ask for it on a round of drinks in a night of partying so if it's a no go then not such a big loss

Well, I've used Sun caber before & it was legit. As long as the tabs come in the little foil pouches they usually come in, I wouldn't worry about the drug being legit. Just want to make sure these guys are actually sending these products out & not just taking the money.

yea, bostin is pushing this company, local friend of mine used, comes within week, says its G2G, he baught the HCG

Hmmmm...is Bostin just pushing it or is it his company?

http://www.usfusionsupply.com/

Came across this today. US domestic, have pharmacy products - doxycycline, caber, prami, HCG, bac water, etc.

Anyone used this company or know anyone who has? Still more expensive than RRX/ADC, but domestic is obviously a huge plus if you need something quick.

If he is on ILE, I will make it known that he is a scammer over there. Anyone know who runs/owns that place?

 

I will be a thorn in his side till the day I die, or he goes to prison.

ILE is Kanada's board.

after all these years im still finding out about new forums.. never heard of thast one. it seems you need to be invited. must be solid if its invitation only.

Yes, it changed not too long ago. Another forum I've been on for years - basically my home board; it was the first one I was active on way back when I got into this - recently went private as well.

Most of the people they use for these studies where they conclude that TRT carries these massives risks are lazy, couch-sitting, potato chip eating, unhealthy fucks anyway.

Nothing at all. It's actually really good! I just saw DNA beside Venom above & wondered if it was tied in with Kalatu. It would be strange cause it's awesome gear & different oil carriers.

Gotcha. I was going to say, there's not any negative reviews over on ILE. I know the administration team over there does some seriously solid work before they let a source onto the board.

Was Venom/Kalatu/MG also DNA Labs??? I had a few vials of their stuff. Think he was a source on Irin Lifter Elite.

He is on ILE. Why? What's wrong with DNA Pharm's stuff?

Some people will get it from deca, other's won't. Like brobundy said, I believe it is fairly uncommon, but of course possible. If you're worried, use NPP instead until you know how you react to nandrolone.

I love nandrolone. I am always on 240-250mg of the decanoate ester (depends on if I have 250mg/mL or 300mg/mL concentration). Keeps me a little thicker. I ran a bunch of NPP on top of the deca over the fall/winter until last week Sunday, when I lowered the NPP down to 40mg/day & added in tren A @ 40mg/day.

Congrats. And nice catch of the headphones as they flew off lol.

Was pleasantly surprised after the video started...when I saw the title of "IMG 0317" I figured this had been filmed with some old ass POS phone with a total potato for a camera.

I don't get hot chicks man. I keep my standards low so I'm never disappointed, fatties, hairy whatever. They tend to do way more freaky shit.

There's some fat bitch in one of my classes who is constantly shooting glances at me. Caught her staring at me a bunch of times last semester too. Fucking sucks because the girl I sit next to was in a group with the fatty last semester so the fatty thinks they're friends. So the first day, fatty asked if cute girl was saving the other seat next to her & cute girl is too nice, so she moved her purse & other stuff off the seat. Now next semester I have to try to get me & cute girl seats where fatty can't sit next to either one of us.

EDIT: Damn, you pulled that after 5x5 @ 225, 5x5 @ 315, AND 5x5 @ 405. Interesting. Why do you do three 5x5s?

thanks bro. been trying for over a year its been rough.

 

ive been off for almost two months. been eating clean and training 5-6 times a week. i used hormones as a crutch too much. diet could have been better. so now i'm eating the way i should and leaning out nicely.

I think most of us are like you mentioned...we think it we stop pinning even a cruise dose of test that we're going to end up looking like shit pretty quick. We'll lose the fullness and everything else the hormones provide, but we won't lose 20lbs of tissue in like 2 weeks or something. I've never come off for as long as you, but last spring I did stop pinning everything for 3-4 weeks just for a small break. Probably should have done that again this year (was planning on it), but I just swapped out/reduced some compounds for the next 4-6 months lol.

I think he's taking superdrol.

::facepalm::

Seems like you are right lol. Just one of those days I guess...

I think he did say senior members are good? But not 100% sure though.

Guess I can ask him. Worst he can do is say no.

Sad.

RIP BigK.

Didn't Dynasty say senior members were still cool?

IDK, I saw that in his thread a few weeks ago, but I don't consider myself a senior member really. I know it says that under my name & that I've been here for over a year (doesn't seem like that long at all), but I am much more "senior" on several other forums. The member he said that to had something like 6+ years or something on this forum.

I'm running a very low dose, 5mg a day or so and will usually take a break for a couple days.

 

It is not even comparable how much less damaging this is for me than tren. Tren I feel like pure shit from week 2, I've had blood in my shit, can't sleep, feel depressed, my whole life tanks on tren.

 

I'm not trying to live to see 100 anyways.

How the hell do you even dose 5mg? Hardly seems worth it...I mean even with the acetate ester, how much is that after you adjust for the ester weight.