Nerve

Damn took a few days off from the board and this is what I come back to lol

Lol, indeed. I've been too busy to get on here for the last 3-4 days or so & I come back & he's still raging.

Wetlook, there was actually no need to remove the color tag. If you look, the background on the quotes is bluish, so you would be able to see the white text in the quote anyway my friend.

Man I run it at low dose with trt. I don't get back pump with it. And I can't even use var because of back pain on it. I have a bad back injury.

How long do you run it with TRT? And what dose? I keep 240-250mg of nandrolone in for my TRT, but I've never heard of someone doing this with an oral.

No back pumps for you probably because of the low dose. Taurine should help with the pumps. I always throw some into my water for during training & usually I put it into the water bottle I carry around during the day as well. I can get some ridiculous calf pumps if I walk a lot or have to do 3+ flights of stairs.

You could, you know, cite the things you claimed to have read.

 

 

 

Care to imagine my facial expression right now?

 

 

 

That's just it, it isn't "common knowledge" and is in fact completely contradictory to the facts at hand.

 

 

 

Congrats on reading wikipedia.

 

 

 

Actually, no it isn't, not at all.

 

Leaning the piano is a skill. One that requires a good deal of dexterity and timing, which can only come from practice. If you honestly believe you can "practice" growing, and you very may well since you are fucking stupid, then this makes sense as an analogy. But since you can't "practice" growing, it doesn't.

 

 

 

You claimed to be bigger than people using splits, yet you refuse to post a picture of yourself. What am I to make of this other than you look like shit? Also, knock it off with the internet lingo.

 

 

 

This makes no sense. I refreshed the board for 45 minutes straight, then decided to reply?

 

You're basically having a total fucking meltdown right now. You come in here and straight up insult people for using a routine you don't like, then claim to know better, but refuse to post anything to back your shit up and instead demonstrate how you pretty much don't know shit.

 

Get lost, faggot.

Maybe you should go read about Arnold's or Gironda's training especially when they first started out. I have plenty of better things to do than dig up things for you to read.

Wikipedia? Lol. Dude, I'll graduate in a semester with a degree in biochemistry. I have done tons of things with genetics, including working as a member of a research team that conducted research that is going to be sent in for an initial review for a scientific/medical journal within the next few months.

Performing lifts properly, especially the big 4 is, in fact, a skill. In order to do the competition lifts properly, they need to be practiced.

I have too much to lose by posting pictures of myself & to gain what...satisfying your curiosity?

The implication was that you were sitting there, browsing this board or browsing other websites, while routinely checking back at this thread/the board. Not that you sat there with this thread pulled up & then refreshed for 45min straight before replying. :rolleyes:

I never insulted anyone actually. I said body part splits are a stupid & inefficient way to train. The BODY PART SPLIT is a stupid & inefficient way to train. I said nothing about the people who use them. I would not say those individuals are stupid, but I would say their choice is poor & they would likely reap better results by switching to upper/lower (heavy & light/medium).

I am growing rather bored of this back & forth now. It was initially entertaining, but now, not so much.

Willing to bet you will take a word in this post & then use it to try to turn something back on me - specifically with the last part about the insults.

[citation needed]

 

 

 

[citation needed]

 

 

 

You do know this is a highly imperfect analogy, correct?

 

 

 

I'm 32 and you still look like shit.

 

 

 

Projecting faggot.

LOL! Citation needed? There's nothing to cite. How do I cite myself not reading his published books? How do I cite that I believe something is common knowledge? It's not me saying "DNA polymerase makes about 1 mistake in every billion base pairs." (Since you want to try to take a shot @ my knowledge of genetics & the related - anyone who knows me knows my knowledge in this area is vast). That is an example of something that would require a citation.

I do. But the analogy is good enough.

Claims someone looks like shit without ever having seen them...lolz stop projecting faggot.

Also, I posted @ 2210 last night. You replied @ 2253, less than 45 minutes later. Are you sitting there refreshing the board just waiting for me to reply? Lol.

I currently have an S6 Edge. I love it. Had an S4 before that.

If you've never had a smartphone, then I agree with GK - get an iPhone. I would personally never get one...just don't like the interface. Plus it bugs me how you can't change the battery in any of Apple's products, so once that goes, you pretty much need to buy the newest version of whatever product it is. BUT iPhones are super easy for anyone to learn how to work. I'm sure I could give it to my dad & he would have no issue figuring it out pretty quickly.

So why would you say Mentzer did a full body routine when you:

 

a) Never read anything he wrote

 

and

 

b) Know he and others only did them as absolute beginners and then went to splits when they got serious

 

??? It's a mystery ???

You don't read well do you? You mentioned the books he published. I said I've never read his published books. I never said I haven't read things he's written. I've also read things written by people who were very close to him IRL, including people who trained with/around him.

I was under the impression it was fairly well known Arnold & such did full body routines until they eventually switched to split style. I thought you knew soooo much about bodybuilding & it's history?

It seems pretty simple to understand really, so I'm not sure why you cannot wrap your head around it. If I practiced the piano 3 or 4 times a week, I would become a better player faster/in less time than if I only practiced once a week. It's the same idea.

See, the fact you called them "bro splits" and explicitly stated that anyone who does them can't think for themselves means you do care.

 

Please point me to some of this literature you speak of.

 

Feel free to post pictures of yourself too, big boy.

 

And I'm just going to remind you that you don't know SHIT about bodybuilding, so why are you even speaking up?

No, I'll pass on knowing some 40 year old + manchild is jerking it to my pictures.

As for the last part, read above.

BTW, I "thumbs downed" you for the bb.com talk. Interesting how you call me out on it, but then proceed to use the term "negged."

You seem rather irate. There's no need to get all worked up & pop a blood vessel here my friend.

I want you to know I negged you for the bb.com talk.

Anyway, on the more important point - Mike Mentzer was a full body routine guy? Nope. Literally all of his books published what he purported to be the most objectively correct training routine possible, which was...want to guess?

 

A bodypart split. The final version was split as chest & back, legs & abs, and arms & shoulders if I remember correctly.

Lmao, I'm pretty sure that did not originate on bb.com. However, I did know that part of the post would get you.

I have no idea what Mentzer has published, but I know from reading about his history that he started primarily with full body routines. So did Arnold & so did Colbert. These guys then did eventually switch to more of a typical bodybuilder style of training.

The stupid & dumb part was directed at a close minded person that obviously knows everything & is never wrong. ;-)

You think you get better results doing a once a week bro split vs hitting everything twice (or maybe 3x) a week? K.

Don't put words into my mouth.

You guys seem to think I care whether you do "bro splits" or not. If you want to do a body part split, go right ahead. It's not my training & I know my training is effective. I could not care less what anybody else does. OP asked a question, I offered my opinion, an opinion held by many others who can think for themselves, who have read the literature, & who don't simply parrot information - that body part splits are inefficient. Exception being if you are on pro-level amounts of gear, rhGH, & slin. Now granted, I would never call myself a "bodybuilder," I'm more a powerlifter. But I'm still a hell of a lot bigger & look way better than all these other guys I see doing these splits.

No need to get pissy, fruitcup.

I'm not upset in the slightest. Several of you guys, however, do seem to be rather rustled now.

So the way bodybuilders have been lifting for decades is inefficient?

Many, many old school bodybuilders did total body workouts. Mike Mentzer for example.

Body part splits are a stupid, inefficient way to train.

this is plain retarded...

 

Push/Pull/Legs

this is a good 'split'...

Oh, you're right. I forgot that the human body is just a bunch of random parts put together that can be worked individually. The body absolutely is not an incredibly designed machine that works flawlessly as one unit. Oh, & you can only use each piece of the body once a week.

You know when you turned your computer on...how could I forget that you in fact did manage to do so utilizing only ONE muscle?

Body part splits are a stupid, inefficient way to train.

Do either:

Upper/lower.

Push/Pull/Legs.

Dear people who say "genetics,"

 

Have you ever seen an NPC show overall winner?

 

Serious question.

That's like a local physique show isn't it? Serious question BTW...I've never been into watching all these shows & whatnot. I'm not big into watching other males parade around in thongs. I'm just a guy who legitimately loves training & I also like the side effect of looking better than everyone else with no clothes on. So when I hear "pro," I'm thinking of the guys on the Olympia stage, like Coleman, Heath, etc.

It starts with genetics. If you don't have the right genetics then your just pissing money away.

Yep, in terms of muscle bellies, shape, overall structure, response to hormones WRT building tissue, response to hormones WRT side effects (ie: How long can you stay on high doses), etc.

If u use gh, peps, melanotan, hcg don't u pin with your draw???

If u use a slin pin for tne same deal no?

You can backload a slin pin.

Just draw with them.

Or I guess use them just to use them even though they're not you "preferred" gauge and/or length.

What do you have that you do not want?

Why not just use whatever you have to shoot it subq? Or just go to Walmart or Walgreens & buy a box?

If I didn't have to, I'd personally rather not cause more trauma & the resulting scar tissue in spots I need to put gear in.

You're' wrong Nerve...I have never had a reaction with cough on any compound and I ve bee juicing since the early 90's as usual you have no clue what your talking about.

Tren cough is unique to that compound and when it happens it always passes on a minute or 2

++++++++++

I've stuck my head in the freezer before because I start sweating so bad but had no idea it actually helped other then cooling my head. I also turn a fan on high and stick my face in front of it and it seems to help but usually if I concentrate on breathing when I feel it coming on I can usually avoid going full blown with drooling, sweating and eyes watering.

Well, maybe I shouldn't have said "will help as well." I probably should have said "it seemed like it helped me." Like you, the sweating was initially why I stuck my head in there. But having my head in there seemed to help with my breathing too.

I had good results from his var at 75mg/day. Sincerely doubt that I was actually using only 21mg.

Interesting....wonder how that helps??

Alcohol is a mild bronchodilator. A broncholdialtor reduces resistance in the air passages by widening them if you don't know what the term means. Sticking your head in the freezer will help as well lol.

It's not "tren cough" either. You can get a cough from any compound. I have had it from test E before. It just happens more frequently with tren A for some reason.

EDIT: Also, if you feel it coming on, try your hardest to NOT cough. If you can avoid the initial cough, you may be able to avoid the situation entirely. But once you start coughing, it's pretty much on, so enjoy lol.

if strango was underdosed, then every other source must be even more underdosed.

Lol!! I said exactly that earlier ITT (think in this one) when I was posting things they were saying over on the gh15 board.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but concerning the oils, if you take away the ester weight wouldn't those numbers be just about right and pretty much accurately dosed?.....

Good post. Didn't even think of that. Great catch actually.

ApexPredator, I don't see where the guy who posted the numbers said that the products are underdosed if the "missing" milligrams are just the ester weight.

Def would like to hear more about this,,,also other peoples thoughts on how the gear feels or felt, or buddies you may have helped out. I did not see any complaints on any boards but i also did not look

I've said it before & I'll say it again. Using strango's gear, I have had the best results I have ever had.

I was actually a mod there early on strangely and resigned when I saw the bullshit going on behind the scenes. Exposing opposing members of other boards children..posting pics ..where they lived and encouraging violence. Some fucked up shit goes on there for sure. And Leans name and address are easy enough if he took money from people via a scam.

Wow, what the fuck?!?

Your avatar seems familiar now that you mention you having been a mod there in the past.

But a lot of things came out within a week or so of gh15 disappearing. Multiple auction winners, auction winners not getting their winnings, auction winners being told to pay more than they bid or they'd be banned for "safety of athletes," members being PM'd by gh15 with him asking them to buy him GH, the ridiculous fees sponsors were paying to be on the board - the board was bringing in a very large amount of money every motnh that was, according to Mr. "Lion of judah," was spent SOLELY on running the board. Now, everyone knows it doesn't take thousands and thousands to run a board of that size....not even remotely close.

Would love to hear more about anymore goings-on from behind the scenes that you know of; I'm sure others here would as well.

People like to make fun of gh15 and think he was some kid in his momma's basement. People still get mad at me and think I am naive but gh15 is a legend and changed the views and how we talk about the cult. People use his words and phrases not even knowing it came from him. He called out and exposed the liars and the scambags. How much hormones played a role and at the very advanced level it was all about hormones and hgh if you were ever going to advance. He wasn't afraid of BigA and IP. He was on the side of good. It was his ego and believing his own hype that made him so full of himself. He became a tyrant and his board a cult. He loss credibility and even some of the vets on his board mocked him in private. The one who really ruined that board was Lean. He tried to shake down sources for free stuff. Ran the board like a Nazi. Was on a power trip. gh15 is a narcissist but he isn't a loonateek. He's brilliant with a lot of character flaws. Lean is a sociopath. Something is truly not right with that guy and if you know his history it's not hard to see why.

 

What started out good, and could have been great, went so wrong. So horribly wrong.

 

With both of them now in hiding I don't know if anyone is supporting it so when the rent comes due this will be the end of a promising but failed era.

Funny you mention Lean...that whole thing got brought up a few weeks ago shortly after everything happened & gh15 disappeared. Also came out that when he was "sick" he ordered a bunch of harsh compounds (halo specifically) from Omega - most likely utilizing the funds people donated to his gofundme or whatever he was using. Omega communicated this to Rearden, apparently expressing concern about the entirety of Lean's "situation."

As for the board, one of the mods mentioned in one of the now deleted threads that admin was "taking a leave of absence until an unknown date, but it is temporary."

Also, look at this (this was originally posted on gh15):

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[td]gina[/td]

[td]Admin Assistant[/td]

[td](December 22, 2015, 08:46:25)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]noel[/td]

[td]Admin Assistant[/td]

[td](December 22, 2015, 08:49:54)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Peter[/td]

[td]Admin Deputy[/td]

[td](December 22, 2015, 09:04:57)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Josh[/td]

[td]Administrator[/td]

[td](December 27, 2014, 00:59:02)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Ankita[/td]

[td]Administrator[/td]

[td](July 10, 2014, 00:48:39)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]admin[/td]

[td]Administrator[/td]

[td][/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]gh15[/td]

[td]SUPERNOVA[/td]

[td](December 18, 2015, 02:50:49)[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

What this tells me is that "Josh" and "Ankita" are throw-away accounts and/or long gone. And "gina/noel/Peter" all logged in on the 22nd at about the same time and subsequently headed for ze hills. Anyone have any guess as to why? :D

Thoughts wutang?

Didn't you say earlier ITT that you are Pellius? You were just brought up the other day over there.

i've always been curios of the name "strango". What the meaning was...

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edit: It won't let me type in all caps unfortunately. So I made the text bigger instead lol.

after the death of Nasser, many good people stopped posting on that site. or at the very least have very limited postings there

This is true, Nasser I believe was the "first" gh15 now the "newer" one there is an obvious difference in posting style.

Yes, this is the general consensus.

The post style isn't so much different as is the content - it's not that difficult to emulate the original posting style; although I do agree, it is not an exact duplication of the original style. It's moreso that there's been nothing new hormone related from "gh15" for a long, long, long time now. This current (or maybe now not the current if he's been arrested) gh15 just rants about stupid shit.

What a coward. Always portraying himself as above it all. Working with the US and international governments -- lol. That he was protected and that he protected his "elves".

 

If any good comes out of this it will be the final nail in the coffin of the gh15 cult. People will finally see what a fraud he was.

A lot of people already seem to know. It is obvious that the original gh15, who wrote all the interesting & useful posts is NOT the gh15 that has been around for the last year or year and half.