Nerve

By all means try it .. However in hindsight i believe you will see the level bloat and overall health will not be worth it .

 

Suspension for kickstart? Maybe prop is a better idea. Suspension is too short. 50 mg is good for a preworkout . But as far as keeping blood levels stable. Its a mess . Also i expect ur estrogen to be a nightmare during that time. Your gunna be spiking estrogen ed all while levels are building and throw drol on top .. Geez im thinking one thing ...

 

Puffer fish.

 

I think you would put on more quality size while keeping bloat down without the oral , drop the trest and do eq @ 800-1g. You can keep test suspension or tren suspension but use it preworkout .

I concur. Save the test suspension or TNE for preworkout. If you want to use some test to kickstart use test prop or test ace if you can get it.

no, it's me on ephedrine, try taking 2 bronkaid and your little 4 incher will become a 1/2 incher you cunt... why do you want to see the real thing? here enjoy... http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/36569327

why is there always so much butthurt when I post pics on bodybuilding sites? bodybuilding douchebags... :D the sad part is I only workout 45 minutes a day 3 times a week, too busy with my 7 figure a year business...

Who do you think you're bullshitting here? You fucking played with yourself to get it up for the picture you posted. Ephedrine does not have that much of an effect. Next time put a warning up when you decide to post pictures of yourself with a raging boner.

Gatdamn, every once in awhile there's gotta be some guy who posts up pictures of himself with a hardon...wtf goes through these people's minds?

Anybody actually pinned into a vein? What's it feel like? I wouldnt think it would kill you cause if it would I'm sure there would be a lot of dead bodybuilders haha

It sucks...feels like your dying almost. Get really warm & start sweating, head gets kind of fuzzy, sort of difficult or hurts to breathe.

You could cause an oil embolism, but you'd need a lot of oil & it'd need to be put directly into the blood stream.

Passed through a bigger blood vessel on the way in. When you still had the needle in, it functioned as a plug. Then when you removed the pin, you removed the plug, & see the blood. No big deal. Happens on occasion. Just wait until you get a squirter.

Not being ignorant with you Navy Chief! Just posting the style of dumbbells I have. I would *LOVE* to have solid dumbbells, but who can afford them?

 

I bought a bunch of stuff (Ivanko plates, hex dumbbells, plated dumbbells, couple of Hampton bars) early this year (around 1060lbs in my 2002 Civic). I was playing around with the 40lb cast hex dumbbells doing seated side laterals and I kept hitting the dumbbells on my bench. The hex are longer than my pro style dumbbells of the same weight. When I win the lottery, these are the dumbbells I will get!

Lulz, how did that go?

Get your facts straight, I never sent any of Strangos or Dictators orals in for testing to ecstasydata.org, that was someone else. If he wants to come forward, thats his business. Only product I had tested was his primo 200.

Yeah, you're right. I was thinking of the Tabman halo thread you made awhile back. I knew someone had sent strango's & dictator's in...just mixed up the people. My mistake.

Remember guys, it's about the genetics and not the drugs!

 

(I'm being sarcastic, if you believe this you are a fucking idiot.)

Well, it IS all genetics. Genetics determine how well you respond to drugs, how much of a drug is needed to achieve a certain effect, what sides effects and to what degree you suffer from those side effects, etc.

:p:p:p

Lol, I'm just kind of being a smartass.

ok gents, just got my bloodwork back today.. been crusing on strangos test c and deca... 300 mgs of test and 300 mgs of deca per week for 6 months now and ready to go nuts on dosages. test was 1167 and red blood cells were thru the rook, prolactin levels were out of range(high). So there you go, legit. I am also a top 10 national competitior and have used s for years now.... enough of all this

This is good (& comforting as well). However, when were these items purchased?

For the record, I am absolutely NOT saying his stuff isn't good or that it is underdosed. As I've mentioned, I've had the best results of my life using his products. I am simply relaying information from elsewhere for anyone who is interested.

Hate to question it... It's got me all paranoid about it now.. I'll see how it goes..

I do as well brother. However, like I said earlier, I don't have any real reason to believe the products I have are not what the label says they are.

Yea man if everything is been going good for you with the products especially during the time frames you have been using the test and deca.. Then I would be all good to go, hence I've honestly been feeling perfectly fine, I just need to get going with trying either the Deca, or Eq which will be soon hopefully.. BUT I will be starting to run the Test E again starting tomorrow and let it settle in for a couple/few weeks.. And go from there.. It's most likely been settled and back to normal with his products than the previous past.. Other than that everything should be alright.

One dude on there did comment that his bloodwork on the sust350 has always come back on point. This isn't from within the last few months though. He did say that he has sust he got recently & that he's going to get bloods done with it at some point. So we will see. I'll write down the guys screenname so I can look for his thread about it if he makes one or I'll just PM him about it.

Other than that, not much going on over there now. Just two guys bitching back and forth about how the other's a liberal pussy and a fat powerlifter that can't see his dick....I'm not sure why this guy thinks all powerlifters are fat as fuck, but ok.

Yea man, Idk what to say because your point of view on how things are is exactly like mine since I have not at all had any problems increasing/maintaining performance etc while training and food is on point.. After reading all this like you are is having me think the same thing, Hope it's not all that people are making it sound.. Because when I read all this I literally just /sighed and ignore it and move on when there are some negative things being said about the products.. Although again never know.. Sadly..

 

As for the Test E, Hell if that is the case I'll switch to the E again and give it a blood test check after it settles in.. But as I said haven't had an issue at all.. Now how recent is this though? that these guys are talking about it? Because AS recent as I am meaning is I grabbed the E and C 10s, was AT MOST 2 months ago..

 

I even have the dbol, Tbol orals.. which also recently about a few weeks ago..

 

I will definitely for sure check it out man.. Hope this isn't the case.. I wanted to give the year of his products a try. hence all the 10s..

 

Have you tried any of the products yet that you have purchased Nerve?

You mean the NPP, deca, sust? I have been using these products from him for the last 7-9 months now. I was just running low and reuped on them a few months ago. Test and deca I am always on. His halo I've been using slightly less than a week currently. I was using his test base, but am using dictator's currently. No difference when I switched from S's to D's base. Also noticed about an hour ago that my traps are definitely bigger than just a few weeks ago & noted while training on Friday & earlier today that they are much stronger.

I believe the general timeframe they are talking about is the last year or so - that since roughly a year ago, some things have been hit or miss while some others things good, other things not good. There's a few different people posing slightly different time frames and viewpoints on products.

A couple members began asking why this information hadn't been mentioned prior. Seems to be mostly fear of banning. I'll check & see what's going on over there right after I post this. I went to play GTAV for awhile just to stop thinking about this whole mess for a bit.

This is interesting.

Don't you have access over there?

In this case having mention about quality.. Is anyone currently running his EQ or Deca? I grabbed a 10 of both.. This wasn't too long ago either. Curious to know what someones take is on that if they have recently gotten any of them since I haven't started them yet.. Although I will be trying once I ramp things up in the offseason.. Although as for the test, currently cruising.. I have both his E and C.. I have had NO ISSUES whatsoever.. I have been seeing stuff talked about it on the other forum.. But at the end of the day I don't understand since the fact everything seems on point so far when it comes to the Test that is.. That I will vouch for BUT UNTIL I try it for myself when it comes to the EQ or Deca then I can have my say on it..

I have a 10 pack of his NPP, >12 vials of Sust350, and a couple of his deca (several other oils and his halo as well). I would love to hear this stuff is good too now after having read what I just did. I don't have any reason to doubt it really, as my strength has been increasing and I've had to size up in t-shirts, but still. One or two of these guys discussing the quality are high level competitors. On the other hand, I've even told S that I've had the best results ever using his products. I still stand by that statement. So if S's stuff is underdosed, then other UGL's are really underdosed. I also went through 200 tabs of his var & gained strength in a fairly decent caloric deficit with no water retention over the summer/beginning of fall.

MrB07, the test in question that was apparently 65% was indeed the Test E. Since you're cruising, maybe get bloods done?

Since you're able to log onto gh15. What's being said over there?

If anyone is curious about what is going on over there, there's a lot of bickering going on in one thread. Also came up that gh15 himself hasn't logged into the site in several days now. One member over there pointed this out and commented about "who's in bed with who? Open your eyes," etc.

EDIT: Now there's a lot of speculation about his products. One guys saying that competitors haven't used S for awhile now & that stuff was underdosed, said a test product was confirmed underdosed by ~65% via bloodwork. Also saying that he & several others confirm the NPP is bunk, that his orals are BS (other than the cheap ones). Not sure about this, because Italian Muscle on here sent in S's (& dictators) var not too long ago & it was confirmed to contain var.

A different guy then said that when he switched from S to other sources, he was positive his mind wasn't playing tricks. This individual also speculated that maybe the real, original S has been out of the game now for a while leading to a drop in quality.

Another guy said his blood work confirmed S's test PP was accurately dosed.

Selective scamming accusation also raised.

Since you're able to log onto gh15. What's being said over there?

Just the same thing as here...that nobody has heard from him in about a week.

That auction...IDK, not too long ago, I found out there was someone on there who won a strango auction, but then when he emailed strango about it, strango apparently didn't know anything about the auction. So I'm not sure the auction being up on there means anything.

Had this once in my quad, scared the piss out of me.

I did too back when I first started. Freaked me out at first, but then I thought it was pretty cool. It was like slow motion when it happened & I actually saw the spurt kind of break apart and form balls/droplets in mid air.

You just hit a bigger blood vessel on the way in. No big deal. Nothing was "wasted."

First of all are u 100% your stuffs legit ?

 

Aromasin has the opposite effect for me as it keeps me up at when ive dose before bed . I only figured that out because It also states that as a side effects . And when i switched to am dosing i was fine .

 

As far as being feeling sleepy/tired. Thats a given for anyone using anabolics .

 

If your tired still and all else is legit ....well then your tired and u should consider a nap

 

 

Sleep=growth

Interesting. I was not aware of this. Thanks for posting this up.

To answer OP's question, When I dose exemestane, I take it before I go to bed. I have noticed that when I wake up to piss in the middle of the night that it seems I take a much longer piss vs nights I don't take it (I take it E3D right now). Maybe it's just in my head though.

Nerve....

You come on here with this demeanor of ; "I know more than the rest of you all"

This is CagedFreak's Thread not yours. Start your own thread and post all your genius ideas over there.

We are asking CF about his opinions nor yours.

 

The other day I was reading all of you new guys posts and it literally gave me a head ache, because all the stuff your talking about has been talked about 1000 times before.

But today I realized its you that gives me a head ache because you simply have little to no idea what your saying.

CF is a high level competitive BB who says its all about large doses of test if you want to get huge...no... you say that's not as good as high doses of Nandrolone or tren?

Like I said, this is CF thread if you don't have anything to ask him then don't post your ideas here post them elsewhere.

I said nothing to CF. And I didn't say or imply anything he said is wrong. Besides, I agree with him that large test doses should be used. But that doesn't mean it has to always be massive test doses. What's wrong with using 2g of sust for a while, then dropping it to maybe 600-700mg & using nandrolone @ 1500mg?

Most people aren't interested in being pro-BB, Mr Olympia huge. And you really need GH to take advantage of huge doses of test, which many people can't afford.

Snaggle wasn't asking for CF's opinion either. He was offering his opinion on a question someone else asked CF - and it was stupid. It wasn't even really an opinion. It's just him being all "hurr durr you failz miserablze..." with a condescending tone. Why are you all on snaggle's nuts?

If you dislike my posts, don't read them. Nobody has a gun to your head.

I hear crickets from Nerve,,,, Happy Thanksgiving

I have other things to do. Not to mention the fact that it's hard to post when the board's been down for a week.

(Why has it been down so long BTW?)

^^^ This is true, but in this guys case, I don't think Nolva is the best option. Nolva is great at preventing gyno but Torem, Ralox, or Clomid will be more effective at restarting HTPA.

Right, that was what he posted, so that was what I posted as well. That's all. But yes, you're correct - there are better choices if one insists on cycling/PCTing. Although as far as I'm aware ralox isn't recommended for PCT. Now, gyno reversal, hell yes. I will attest to the reversal powers of raloxifene. But as far as I'm aware, raloxifene's effects on the HPTA are pretty insignificant (at least compared to the others). But since I blast & cruise, it's been years since I've researched PCT related stuff, so maybe there is new evidence out there that I have not seen. If one has to PCT, I would recommend torem. That was what I used for my last PCT years ago before I committed to B&C & that PCT went much, much better than clomid/nolva combo PCTs that I had done.

That guy got busted about a year and a half ago or so with a ton of raw powders and stolen credit card & identity information. I would stay far away from his website and anything to do with him.

Any exogenous test will shut you down, so yes, you were "shut down" on 250mg of test.

Nolva is dirt cheap...how is it possible to not afford it?

As mentioned, why have you not started a PCT now? Cycling/PCT is retarded. 1 step forward, 3 steps back everytime. Just blast & cruise.

Using hormones to "get your head in the right place?" I don't know what that means, but that should have been done prior to using. Stop being so careless. Irresponsible users are part of what gives hormones a bad name. I know I said blast & cruise, but only do so after your sort whatever your issues are out.

Lol spot enhancement is BS. If it were true, my ass would be absolutely GIGANTIC by now.

I think you just need to keep working on these areas. My quads are pretty bad. There's certain spots that feel like I'm pushing the needle through cork board, it's hard to get it in there, & I can feel this "prickling" sort of sensation when I'm trying to get the needle in there. I've been working with that percussion massager a little more frequently lately on my quads, hamstrings, calves, glutes. I did an injection into my left quad last night & it was amazing how much of that tissue I had broken up with the massager. Needle went in so much easier & I didn't have to push ridiculously hard on the plunger.

If you're right quad is bigger, it's because you're using that leg more when you squat, leg press, leg extensions (puke @ the last two exercises lol). My right quad is bigger & stronger because I've had my left knee operated on. It's something I've improved a lot just by focusing on driving through both heels equally.

Let me get this straight,,,,, you want to take just 200 mg of test while at the same time 1400 mg of nandralone,,, if that is the case you will fail miserably

Why will he fail miserably?

Nandrolone is a better mass builder than test. So why not use a dose of test sufficient enough to maintain normal male functioning (200mg is plenty for that) & then blast the better mass builder at a higher dosage & use the nandrolone as the work horse?

I'm going to assume you have not actually tried high nandrolone or high tren with lower test & are just parroting information about how "bad" it is.

Joey, I think you'll like it. Just have to keep an eye on estrogen levels because nandrolone converts via a different pathway & AIs are ineffective on said pathway. Have caber on hand as well (or prami).

I'm under that same impression, that board talk about deca dick on any board may be talking about 2 different problems. Whether or not deca is the culprit, that sure does complicate how otherwise valid replies may help an OP.

 

Your experience with the 19-Nor issue suggests you just deal with estro and let prolactin take care of itself, or am I mis-reading?

 

 

 

Women also complain about a wham-bam-thankyou-ma'am behavior from us, if you can fuck forever you might be the most popular guy in town. If they can fake orgasms, so can we dammit, this is 2015!

Generally, yes. It seems for most people, if estogen is kept under control, prolactin will, for the most part, remain under control as well. However, right now, because I'm using a combination of deca & NPP to total around 650mg along with 360mg of Tren E, I am using 1mg of caber per week. When I drop the nandrolone back down to a "cruise" of 240-250mg, & drop the tren, I will cease the use of caber.

So I guess to more specifically answer your question, cruising, I just use an AI (exemestane is my AI of choice) as I feel is needed. When I start bumping up nandrolone or tren dosages or combinations of nandrolone & tren, I will add in caber.

Nerve, or any others; I'm unaware of ever having had deca dick, but I've hardly ever touched it due to the overworked broscience phrase. What do most ppl think that means?

 

Is it a lack of desire to use a dick that works just fine (should I say "swell," lol), OR, is it where the desire in the big head is still there but the little head does not respond? Long story short, diminished libido or diminished ability?

I'm under the impression it refers to both, although maybe a little more towards the ability/inability side.

I've never experienced it. And I've been on a minimum of 240-250mg/week of nandrolone for about 2 years now (??? around there anyway). Right now, I'm on about 650mg of nandrolone total now, along with a small amount of tren E. Any libidio issues I've ever had I can trace to either over or under using an AI.

I use a percussion massager I bought from Walgreens for $40. It works awesome & I've recommended it to a lot of people on multiple boards.

EDIT: This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/Wahl-Percussion-Therapeutic-Massager-4290-300/dp/B00BTYYCKK

I just spent 15 minutes writing a response only to lose it. So I'll try again much shorter version. My response to "Nerve" was a little quick and less respectful than I would expect from anyone when a question was asked. Before you respond to an 18 year old newbie Thant you think wants to take a gallon of steroids and be a pro next year, you could be wrong. I'm older than 99% of everyone hear and probably older than most of your fathers. I started in the gym when most of you weren't a gleem in your father's eye. In an old gym run by Dick Fudge who was training Mr Universe, Jim Haislop, several Mr Americas and Mr Floridas such as Frank Calta, John Schleicher and Dick's wife Georgia. Chec out muscle memory.com for some great old time mags. As one of the other guys stated test wasn't a big factor in those days it was a lot of dbol and later test. I have run several cycles of test and Decca in a ratio of 2:1 which was the way I was taught. I've only run cycles to be bigger than most my age and for strength and longevity. So that was the reason for my question. Also the mast question was merely a curiosity the. . Thanks for listening and just for info: I'm 72 years old and an having my 4th surgery of the year next month for a 2nd. Knee replacement and have been hospitalized 8 times in the past 2 years, but between that and recovery time I'm in the gym 5 days a week hitting it as hard or harder than most of. Sorry for the rant and thanks for your patience.

Yeah, last night after work I actually saw your intro thread & that you mentioned there you were in your 70s. I, admittedly, felt a little bad about my response. I'm also glad I decided to not reply to your reply when I initially saw it prior to see your intro thread. I would have guessed you were 25-40 since that seems to be the most common age range on these types of forums. So since age is a factor here, I can't rip into someone for a question like that when that's what they've been "taught" for decades (as long as you're not one of those older guys who's all "I'm older therefore I'm always right or something).

But FYI, "deca dick" is just a bunch of BS. I have a ton of stuff to do for classes, but if I can find time in the next few days, I may sit down & type out a longer reply as to why. Maybe someone else will beat me to it.