twigs

I only know of AB

I love it here, but in order to keep up on what's going on you need to monitor a few forums. I'm only on 3 forums here a private one, and meso. This allows me to keep pretty up to date with what's going on. Things are changing though with lots of sources going to discord, I'm starting to fall behind. It's hard to keep up with everything

When would you say this golden age started?

Within the past 2 years. Prices across the board are lower, they're more available, a lot more products are tested similar to when srcs was around. Growth hormone is as low as 100 dollars for a kit. The last time the market was like this was pre ord.

Since 2007 when has there been a better time for buying cheap, high quality products?

Please pm me I don’t see them on here at all it’s driving me fucking crazy

Neither of them are here. Next day sells the same products as tp for a higher price, but you dont have to wait a long time for it.

TP or Nextday

Tp if you can wait next day if in a rush.

No offense taken man. Primo is always a sensitive subject. Yea it’s very possible to do it and to make it pain free. I won’t disclose exactly how I do it but I will give two hints. You must use EO to suspend it and one of the most important parts is the quality of the filtering. The next batch of primo 200 I make I’ll be sending out a sample for analysis for members to see.

Carrier oil helps as well, oils like mct and miglyol help with higher concentration compounds and less pain. Phenylpropionate compounds can be painful if around 175-200mg, but mct and mig make it painless for most. If I'm trying to push concentrations higher than normal I now use a blend of miglyol 840, apricot kernel oil, and a small amount of EO. The EO is a very small amount, but I feel it helps with smooth injections. Also people allergic to EO have had no reaction to this blend.

Well, my money is not the smart kind. Pharmavol is coming back to AB. Making arrangements with his BTC wallet and is gonna get the financials squared away tomorrow.

The presentation is the best in the business coupled with $40 mast E, tren E, and drol for $20 and a full list with prices relative to these first few products makes me wonder how anyone can buy anywhere else?

Sometimes its rough to try a new source, and I dont mean new in the game I just mean people that have never used them before. When you have proven sources known to deliver at a similar price sometimes it's hard to stay from your regulars. I like to keep 2 regular go to sources minimum right now I have 3 and they all provide slightly different options. Two ugl, and one for pharm grade and insulin. I also brew my own, and I dont resell at the moment so presentation means nothing to me, I do appreciate when sources go the extra mile, but one of my sources has labels similar to what I put on my home brew. Just the basics.

Seeing your endorsement I may give them a try though, your longevity in this game means something for those who know who to listen to.

I have an issue of muscular development in front of me from 2013. William levelynn has a column and states the only true hg primo is made in Spain, Turkey stopped manufacturing primo in 2013...

 

That’s what the article says, so is Turkish primo conterfiet as well?

If it hasn't been produced someone is making a legit copy of rimobolans. I have even seen posts from people living overseas showing the new packaging. I have also seen hplc testing on rimobolans from 2 sources that show them to be dosed accurately. This is one reason I stay away from some pharm grade products unless I can verify there still in production. Like iran hormone test e, decca, and var. Since they are pharmaceutical they come in low dose form the var is 2.5mg per tab, and the decca is 25mg per ml. You can confirm it's still in production along with belco sustanon which has verification codes on it. There are a few others as well, but with good sources like GG, and some others that arent here I dont worry about it to much.

Good ugl is pretty easy to find right now. It is the second golden age of AAS, prices are cheap availability is plentiful this is similar to pre ORD. Which is kind of scary, but at point with things like the dark web hopefully LE is to busy for anything major right around the corner.

Primo is wonderful I like to use it in place of test or a real low dose of test and let the primo make up the difference. It's not a drug that will blow you up, but the benefits vs risk is great.

Most side effects are not from the growth hormone itself, its the additives like mannitol, sorbitol, and many others. I used to have a list by manufacturer of multiple brands of growth hormone and everything included in the vial. The additives are the reason why 2 different brands of GH can cause such a difference in results. Like when you retain a lot of water on one brand and not another.

Primo is painless up to 200mg/ml and will hold with standard solvents using mct, miglyol, fractioned coconut oil, and some oil blends. I have seen it tested at 200mg/ml in gso, and painless. A source I used to work for carried it and had it tested, he got out of the business and left his part of the lab with his partners. So I won't name them as I dont know of there reputation any longer.

I think the reason primo is painful at 200mg/ml is partly due to the fact that some sponsors over do the solvents thinking it will crash if they dont. Primo has a high molecular weight which makes it more difficult to work with tha. Something like decca, but heavy solvents are not required.

Yeah I figured that. There is a source here that there list says coming soon primo e 200 mg for

Buck twenty five that’s like 62.50 for 100mg that’s cheap for primo.

What’s your two cents on that? Just curious

That's pretty close to an average price. One of my sources sells it in 20ml jugs, and made with mig840 at 200mg/ml the price is 200 per 20ml. Yeah primo is expensive but a lab can offset the cost by picking up a kilo of raws.

Primo e 200 isnt hard to brew at all it can hold with standard 2/20 BA/BB ratios. Depending on carrier oil you can go even lower. Primo isnt that hard to find even the rimobolans are easy to find, I dont fuck with naps, but there's lots of quality sources for Bayer Rimobolans.

I also need to correct myself after looking at the results again and seeing that it is indeed labeled as 356mg testosterone enanthate. Not just testosterone per ml.

 

So, as I think twigs was pointing out and correcting me as to over or under dosed, it is underdosed.

 

Dont be confused though on how its measured, thatis still as I stated and this shows that.

 

356 mg of test E is not 400mg of test E.

I was just pointing out that the testing has the ester included. The results are disappointing, and I wasnt implying that the results were as they should be. Everything you said about ester weight is true and I wasnt disputing that. Sometimes the way I word things may come off wrong a lot of times I post right before bed or upon waking, when I'm not quite awake.

So you are saying that the vial is mislabeled in two ways: 1, its labeled as test C & E, 2) it's over dosed by 25%.

 

Are these correct? Are there more issues?

That test wouldn't make it overdosed. When the testing is done the ester weight is part of the test. So if you test 200mg test e, it should come back close to 200mg test e. Not 160mg testosterone, and 40mg enanthate ester.

I read that masteron helps with estrogen also is that accurate info?

Yes it does, masteron works better than proviron for anti e properties. Its name masteron comes from its use for fighting breast cancer.

Yes, and that is a good thing but testing has always been around just those who should have opted to test - didn't. Trusting in their raw supplier or bulk oil manufacturer.

Keep in mind a lot of oils are mass produced , shipped in containers from CN. Reason for regular independent testing due to the saturated market of A.A.S. currently. Keep to those with genuine feedbacks , blood works etc

The testing has been available, but for some reason there wasnt as much emphasis on it until recently. Testing has kind of phased in and out. When srcs was around testing was more prevalent, after secs was gone testing was more scarce. Now it's coming back.

While bloodwork is good it's to easy to manipulate. There also is always some debate, because everyone metabolizes test at a different rate. If I were to post bloodwork most people wouldn't believe my numbers, when my levels are peaking I score over 10 times total test. 200mg will put me at 1500 7 days after injection. Some guys will be in the 800 range. I know where I should be from quite a few years of trt bloodwork, but it can be very misleading. It's still nice to see bloodwork, but analytical testing is king. Now that you have a domestic option I need to give you guys a try, I live in one of the shitty 8-9 zips.

Your going to have to wait it out if you want to regain any sort of natural level. It's not something that happens in a couple months, it can take over a year depending on how long you were on.

DYEL has good reviews on another board which i why i choose to go with them but the mast prop i got was very underdosed or bunk. I Switched to another lab's mast prop and noticed a big difference in my physique after 2 weeks. i wont mention that lab name so it doesnt look like im promoting anything. im just speaking my honest truth and can provide email transcripts of my order with them if anyone starts to challenge me.. Now going by their reviews I probably got a bad batch since they are very popular so maybe they got overloaded and made a mistake , test e was good to go but mast prop was weak and noticed a difference switching to someone elses mast prop.

Have you spoken with him about he issue, if your concern is valid (I'm not saying its not) I'm sure he would help you. I have ways heard good things, but due to him being on so many boards I never used him. I have seen what it takes to keep members satisfied on one board, so it has to be more than a full time job with so many boards.

I've used his Test D with great results! His labels were also very professional.I wish long-acting Test esters were offered by more sources.

Dyel stopped sponsoring at the board I knew him from almost a year ago. Has anyone had more recent contact?

 

Ivan_Drago

Dyel is on at least 3 boards I know of. Bop, sf, and one private board. I'm sure he is on a couple others as well. It's not hard to find him. There's some good sponsors here, there's 2 I would use way before considering dyel. Caxxis and greek god are two amazing sponsors. I have used greek god, not caxxis, but the testing speaks for itself.

I will second that! I’m looking forward to my go to winter bulk that includes anadrol, winstrol, and sustanon. I know with caxxis I’m getting almost exact label claim which is extremely hard to find these days.

This isnt really that hard to find, I have no doubt in caxxis, but right now there is more tested products then there has been in years. I know caxxis tests there products, but others do as well. There are a lot of shit labs out there, but there are some very good ones as well. I would say that we are entering into pre ORD territory right now which is kind of scary, and makes me want to stock up on some raws just in case.

It sounds like a nerve issue not a strain. Ps I’m not a doctor.

This is what it sounds like to me as well, strained muscles usually dont radiate pain that far. Usually a strain the pain is pretty localized. I would seek a second opinion, could be a bulging disc impinging on a nerve.

I'm sure he is paying a hefty price for them as well. Insulin is ridiculously priced in the states. Good rx has 5 pens at 350 dollars, and he probably picks a few up from someone with extras so they're probably charging him a little more than they pay. I bet he is paying around 80 bucks a pop. I dont think vision would charge 100 a pen if he was getting them for 20. He doesn't seem like someone to mark up products 400 to 500%.

that would make more sense, cause 100 for 1....dayammmm

For 1 pen that's high.

My worthless opinion....outside of real GH which makes it all grow bigger by creating more muscle cells

In my experience the drugs (or the increased dosages of those drugs)

with the most sides are the drugs that make muscle growth the best.

The idea of hyperplasia induced by using GH hasn't been proven. The only method of muscle growth is hypertrophy at this point, from all the reading I have done. If GH or any other drug could cause hyperplasia it would be the holy grail of drugs. I have looked for any type of proof that GH can cause hyperplasia, but I cant find any, and I have tried to see if anyone had seen a thing on it. If you have seen anything that shows GH can cause hyperplasia I would appreciate the links or any info you have.

The Tech is working on it.

 

Members will receive a message when problem has been corrected.

 

SF doesn't charge anywhere near what BOP was making. They don't collect monthly rent.

I know they dont make near as much as BOP, but it's good money. SF actually has a fair cost for sources I worked for a couple sources there, so I know what it cost back then. My guess is it would be about the same.

I'm staff at AA and SF bro

Do you think SF will be back up? The black mailer has completely shutdown BOP, and it doesnt look like it's coming back. SF should pay up they have to be making a killing.

The test your taking puts you in the normal range and its actually what trt is for, your problem is more than likely somewhere else. With trt it should always be the lowest amount to get your levels in the healthy range. When you do your bloodwork they test your nadir levels, which is at your lowest point. So most of the time your levels are probably around 7 to 800 total test. Your free test is above the high range, so you dont need anymore test. If you want to up it for some goals that's fine, but it's not the reason your not feeling good.

The study galaxy is referring to showed that metformin isnt good for athletes. The combination just lowers certain markers of biological age it doesnt neccesarily make you feel better. I unknowingly used that combination for over a year, and didnt notice any difference in how I felt. I dont use metformin now after the study, and I'm going to start using lantus instead.

If your constantly tired and run down you should do a sleep study, its probably sleep apnea. You can add in all the test or decca, but your test levels are actually very good. Upping the test, and adding decca more than likely will not help.