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Three hours.

In the delt IM injection.

TP has been around forever he just happens to be on BOP now and a few other boards. You used to need someone to vouch for you to order from him. He is as good as it gets, but he is an old school source. He will communicate with you, but responses are very short, and to the point. Shipping can take some time if you use international, but you will get your products. I only use his products now that PD has been gone.

It's hard to beat the price of Costco egg whites. I used to have a buddy that owned a shop and they carried muscle egg so I could get them at cost which was a substantial discount. The flavors are good to, but he ended up moving and getting rid of the store so now I use Costco for egg whites.

As far as Beverly I have never been disappointed with any of there products and I kind of got away from using them. I'm going to have to go back to using them.

That sounds good.Im 47 and i really cant run harsher compounds anymore.Im thinking 800 test and 400 mast would be a nice blast.Dbol on preworkout only(4 times a week).

 

What are your offseason training you usually recommend?I feel there is not enough training talk these days mostly drug talk.Good to see some good discussion going..

 

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If your looking for some good training programs it kind of depends on what you respond to best, but fst7, neil hills y3t, or dogg crap are all great programs you can kind of tweak to fit your needs. There's plenty of others, but fst7 created by hany rambod is one of my favorites. It is pump focused, but you dont sacrifice lifting heavy weights just to get the pump. It's kind of a mix between HIT style training with some sets aimed at getting a pump and stretching the fascia. Hany's theory is that the fascia is one of the limiting factors of muscle growth, so by stretching the fascia you give the muscle more room to grow.

At 47 you have been training for a while so you should be able to look at the principles of the programs and adapt them to your needs. There is a post here that has a lot of programs saved on google drive. I will edit this post with a link to it. It has a lot of programs and even books like body opus.

I couldnt get the link to work, but the thread is in the training help area, and it's called Fitness program collection. In the first post it has a couple links the first one is the best, it looks like a lot has been removed from the second. There is lots of training programs, diets, and even some very old school pdf on drug use. There is some good shit in there.

Then you ought to give this a try, awesome stuff & I assume you mean by traveling with , the fact that liquid eggs won't hold up, plus the sheer weight of a few cartons.

 

https://beverlyinternationalstore.com/provosyn-vanilla/

 

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Yeah traveling with liquid egg whites is a pain in the ass, even using my six pack bag it's not easy. I will have to check that out, Beverly international makes really good products.

All of our orals are now tabs no more caps or liquid orals.

 

Something to consider down the line if there's enough interest and a good supply

I just prefer liquid for clen or t3, when something is dosed in micrograms I'm leary of some source's. Not implying that you fall into that category, just had some very inconsistent clen tabs from a ugl.

Our clen is the bomb!! Just saying

 

Would never personally ever use DNP.

Is your clen liquid or tabs? Have you ever thought about adding phentermine to.the list?

Bio-availability from plant source protein isn't that great.

 

Stick with a high quality whey protein ISOLATE or EGG protein source.

Look at your labels and compare grams in one serving vs grams of protein.

The closer that ratio less garbage and flavorings.

 

NutraBio and Allmax nutrition Isolate come to mind here.

 

Allmax Isoflex has 27g of protein in a 30g serving size.

 

Nutrabio has a similar ratio and list everything in it's protein.

You must have posted while I was typing on my phone, but you hit pretty much everything I did in a.much more concise manner. Egg protein is the shit, nothing better than liquid egg whites, that is the gold standard when doing protein comparisons. I just wish it was easier to travel with.

Wow huge difference since ive switched from whey. No more bloat no more feeling like crap. Plant is the way to go. Feel so much better and def more lean muscle imo. Animal protein in powders is a scam imo. No more... Im using Health Warrior Vanilla Superfood Protein Powder & Probiotic stuff is really good.

The link posted isnt even a real study. They handed out health questionnaires to come to the conclusion that plant and animal proteins yielded the same results. There was no actual study done to, or any real hypothesis. This is just a bullshit article with no real science backing it up. Where are the citations, the people are not grouped to see the difference age play, and there is zero accounting for the differences in lifestyle. I didnt even see that one group only ate.plant based protein, one that ate protein derived from meat, and a group that ate both.

There could be a few reasons why whey doesnt agree with you, but with the internet you can buy flavored egg whites. The egg whites will be much better than the plant based protein. I'm glad your liking what your doing, and it's working for you, but there is a reason whey protein is the number 1 best selling protein.

There isnt even a close second whey protein is flat out amazing as long as you can digest it. Usually only the cheap brands cause these problems, but for some people no matter the brand it causes digestive problems. This is not a problem with the whey, it's just your body can process it properly.

If I couldn't drink whey I would stick with egg whites, which is probably the best protein available it's just not as convenient, and that's why whey is number 1 its convenient, and effective. Every study I have seen for meat alternatives whether it be omega fatty acids or protein they always dont have near the same bioavailability.

For a serum test 10iu pinned IM in the delt then test as close to 3 hours as possible is still good. For igf I would stay T the same dose for around 21 days and then do bloodwork timing doesnt matter. Igf is the best way to test. Right now is one of the best times for generic GH, there are multiple brands right now that are 97%+ pure with very low dimmer content.

I think TP's product is the easiest choice, but many others have tested well.

Never tried miglyol but I'll look into it. GSO and CSO are the only things that I can tolerate from my experience. MCT and EO are no buneo lol

If you have and issue with mct, miglyol will more than likely cause you problems it's way more expensive than other carrier oils as well. I would just stick with what you know works for you. The only reason I brought up miglyol is that it's used to hold higher concentrations, so at low concentrations it should require very little solvents.

Use miglyol 840 as your carrier if you're not allergic to it, it will help keep the amount of solvents used to a minimum.

Exactly what I thought. If they’re generics, which they are, why not just call them generics. Calling them Jintropin generics makes me feel like he’s trying to use jintropins brand to sell his product and if they were legit and accurately dosed, I’m sure most of you would be like me and take unlabeled generics, AS LONG AS THEYRE LEGIT. See no point in calling them jins SMH.

 

He also mentioned “his boss” gets the raws and that they’re GMP certified. Isn’t GMP certified stuff the stuff that goes to really companies then goes to the pharmacies?

 

I guess I answered my own question and I’m gonna go with what I’ve used in the past. Generic greytops! Same as the one that platinum direct had when he was a sponsor here and I know they’re legit, and I finally got a new source for them since platinums gone. Out of all the generics I’ve used, IP’s yellow tops and platinums greytops were the best I’ve ever used.

If your going with supertropin for the greys they are not the same as the greys provided by PD or TP. I have seen all the claims and ordered 3 kits and went directly from PDs greys to supertropin greys. They were definitely not the same. I changed up and went with mauves which the purity came back around 95% dosed at 14iu per vial for the batch I got. TP said the purity will be better on future batches.

Protonmail is notorious for this, it happens constantly. Tutanota is a much better service, I haven't heard of it happening with Tutanota. Another precaution you guys should be taking is by using a password that cant be hacked. Your password should be at least 20 characters minimum, anything less is just making it easy for the hackers.

It's not an oil, but from what I have heard hydronics H20 is pretty hard to beat for site enhancement.

The fermented pickles are a very strong probiotic. Great for the gut!

Kimchee is my preferred fermented vegetable. I love the stuff, and have it with most meals.

From what I have read some manufacturers recommend using just bac water, and other say to use acetic acid to reconstitute. When injecting igf reconstituted with acetic acid you draw some bac water before or after, that way it mixes with the bac water which helps make the injection smoother.

This is an important topic that people need to be made aware of.

 

IM, this pertains directly to a conversation you and I had here re: testing.

 

Do with it what you will. Again, there were (2) Moderators in the Private Label thread (among several other long-time members) on BOP that were absolutely blasting the living hell out of Janoshik and he did a very poor job of trying to defend himself. Actually, he basically gave up trying to defend himself, when he was called out he basically did not even try to defend himself.

 

IMO you could be making a really big mistake recommending people send things off to Janoshik. Dude is shady and I do not trust him, nor do a couple of the Mods and other long-term members on BOP.

 

IM, I wish you'd log onto BOP and contact one of the mods on that board, explain to them you are a Mod here on AB, and that way, they will hopefully be able to go into detail exactly what shady tricks Janoshik pulled.

 

Why did I openly post this rather than send you a PM? Because I suspect you would have ignored by PM and never done anything about it.

 

https://brotherhoodofpain.com/spartapharmausa/63089-additional-testing-2.html#post952687

Even though people have had problems with jano, he has had results that came back the exact same as it did when tested by another lab. Plus BOP is the last place I would use for good information. BOP is a joke virtually everywhere on the web. There reputation is worse than (insert scammers name here).

I used to live in a neighboring county, and I wouldn't want to use any gear brewed in Red Bluff.

I read the article and somehow the bridge league is overseen by the Olympic committee, so they test. He was on test and clomid as part of a trt regiment. It also states he is in prison for tax problems, he didn't report 800,000 dollars on his taxes roughly. Who knew bridge paid so well.

I had no idea that there were different grades of EO as I assumed EO was EO. Thanks for the input brother.

No problem.

This is a little late but one of the big problems with EO is the fact that there are multiple grades of it. EO is used in the injection molding of plastic, so some labs may be using a grade that is for industrial use. This is why I believe plungers swell, and stoppers become messed up.

Compounding pharmacies use EO, in injectable products from some reading I have done. I use a small percentage of EO to thin out the apricot oil I use for brewing. I use a mix of oils, and the apricot oil is the thickest, so a little EO thins it out. I have had zero issues with stoppers or plungers swelling. The EO is supposed to be usp grade, I have left a stopper and a plunger in the straight EO for roughly 24 hours with no issues.

So from what I have read and experienced I think the problem lies with an industrial grade of EO.