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    TRT DOSE

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    For what it’s worth:  I do 10 mg daily in an insulin syringe (SQ) and that puts me at 600 TT and 134 free T

    14 mg daily (98 mg weekly) puts me at 800.   

    200 mg weekly puts me at 2200

     

    Hgh 3 x per week?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Back in the anabolex days I remember many swearing by hgh injected 3 days per week. Anyone do this?

    heres a study supporting this:

     

    In 1994, a Korean study looked at 28 patients over a 12-month period. All participants selected for the study were adults with human growth hormone deficiency. Each subject had been diagnosed after 20-years of age. The study separated the participants into three groups:

    • Group 1: They were given HGH Injections 3-days per week.
    • Group 2: They were given HGH Injections 7-days per week.
    • Group 3: This group was given a placebo.

    The dosages given to the two non-placebo groups were as follows:

    • Group 1 / 3-Day: 0.18 units/kg/week. (Approx. 4 IU per Injection).
    • Group 2 / 7-Day: 0,42 units/kg/week. (Approx. 4 IU per injection).

    Blood exams were taken frequently to monitor HGH levels, lipids, and other biomarkers. The results of the study were surprising, as in many biometrics tracked, the 3-day HGH injection group saw more benefit. The key results break out as follows:

     

    Weight: In all three groups, the body weight remained virtually the same.

     

    Lean Body Mass: The 3-day HGH injection group added 2.8kg of lean muscle mass. The 7-day HGH injection group added 2.9kg of lean muscle mass. Not a significant difference.

     

    Body Fat Reduction: The 3-Day HGH Injection group saw a 1.5% reduction in body fat, while the 7-day HGH injection group saw 2.8% reduction in body fat. This seems to be the one metric where injecting HGH 7-days per week benefits you over injection 3-days per week. See discussion below.

     

    Lean Thigh Mass: The 3-day HGH injection group saw more increased muscle mass in their thighs, while both the 7-day HGH injection group and the placebo group saw no measurable increase. For men, this may be of interest, since larger thigh muscle mass is often associated with higher serum testosterone levels.

     

    Exercise Capacity: The 3-day HGH Injection group saw increased exercise capacity over the 7-day HGH injection group and the placebo group.

     

    Bone Mineral Density: No group saw an increase in bone mineral density. However, since the study was a relatively short 12-month study, it’s not significant. HGH use has been shown to increase bone mineral density in other studies of longer length and with 191AA HGH.

     

    Cholesterol / Lipid Profiles: None of the groups saw any significant improvement in cholesterol and other lipids. However, this study was done in Korea using the Korean population. Their diet is much different than the Standard American Diet (SAD), and other western culture diets, so more than likely their cholesterol levels and lipids were already relatively good, so not a lot of improvement could be made anyway. [h=3]Discussion on HGH Injection Frequency and Dosage[/h]

    As the 1994 study shows us, when it comes to HGH injections, more is not necessarily better. In fact, it may impede athletic performance. Although more investigation is required, it is possible that too high a dose too frequently injection may produce a limited amount of HGH resistance. It’s very natural for the body to block high levels of any physiological event. We know this from a growing number of insulin-resistant pre-diabetes epidemic we now see unfolding in modern society due to frequent over-feeding, creating high levels of hyperinsulinemia.

     

    The one major difference between the two groups was in body fat reduction. The 7-dau HGH injection group saw 2.8% decrease in body fat, whereby the 3-day HGH injection group only saw a 1.5% reduction. Besides this difference, those on a limited budget may find injecting HGH 3 – 4 days a week will save you money and will save you money. For those concerned about the fat loss component, you can work with one of our practitioners on the HCG Diet or HCG Fast Diet program.

     

    DOWNLOAD STUDY [PDF Thrice Weekly HGH Study]

     

     

    If on trt, ? About anadrol

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    I usually blast with test and deca, but a lot of guys over at tnation say how bad deca is for cardiovascular system and studies showing interference with brain neurotransmitters etc.

    if I had access to anadrol (keeling safety in mind) think it be a good idea to blast anadrol for 3-4 weeks just to add some weight and hopefully trt keeps some gains? Or all most the gains temporary?

    My main goal is muscle, but safe as possible. Again I know anadrol probably least safe, but my thought is only on 3 weeks and take a few months off, overall less toxicity?

    thoughts?

    Real primo? Any primo from sponsors lab tested?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted · Edited by Theworm
    Update

    Fakes, where? Biotest is legit, and those guys have been around for like 15+ years.. I dont think Ive ever heard anything bad about their products either

    But why aren't you considering using our guys here?

     

    I’m considering, that’s why I was asking. Heard good things about APL but heard he wasn’t around anymore? Not sure.

     

    Let me ask, is it even worth trying to get if one has access to us pharmacy obtained test and deca?

     

    I’m pissed weed is legal but I can’t get some damn primo!

    Coming off “trt”, got my LH to .7, any hope?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Congrats on baby #5 bro.....I'm in my 40's and like Navy have resigned myself to the life long cruise. 150mg of test a week keeps me well within range and I don't have to worry about ancillaries, which imo, can have significant health risks for men 40+.

    Thabks... my hrt doc said if I want to add something just add 150 deca weekly, he said I can run it as long as I want permitting labs are ok.. think it’s a good idea? Or just stick to test to get me to a TT of 800-1000?

    Coming off “trt”, got my LH to .7, any hope?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted · Edited by Theworm

    I dont think TRT is the issue then, it's the blasts.

     

    Time to go on that life long cruise my friend.

     

    I'm there, been there for a few years now. I enjoyed a good blast a few years ago but now I am content running 1200 to 1500 average and adding a little test ace in here and there for feel good days and added sex drive.

     

    At 150mg trt and 7-800 level you shouldn't need an AI either.

     

    Thanks so much I appreciate it

     

    How old are you? Maybe being over 40, I shouldn’t blast anymore. My doses are low though, like 3-400 mg a week of test and 3-400 deca

    Coming off “trt”, got my LH to .7, any hope?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Yes there is a chance of reaching "natural" levels.

    Problem is your natural level will be shit low.

     

    I would personally commit to try from here out. Find where you want to be and feel good (800, 1100, 1500) whatever and maintain from there.

     

    You may want to look at either the transdermal patch or long esters like test-undecanoate, to help with that anxiety that hits when you think of pinning weekly for the next 30 yrs. Lol

     

    Yes there is a chance of reaching "natural" levels.

    Problem is your natural level will be shit low.

     

    I would personally commit to try from here out. Find where you want to be and feel good (800, 1100, 1500) whatever and maintain from there.

     

    You may want to look at either the transdermal patch or long esters like test-undecanoate, to help with that anxiety that hits when you think of pinning weekly for the next 30 yrs. Lol

     

    Yeah, I have no issue pinning, I do it every 3 days and I feel amazing. I think I’m just crazy. When I’m on I feel amazing and with the hcg my balls feel full so then I get confident that I can get off trt but when I do I always feel like shit.

     

    My issue is I wish I could be natural, on nothing and run at 800 or so. I get this thought that I never been fully natural and got checked after my vericocele repair but yet I know deep down that I prob can never get over 300 naturally again. I was 388 ten years ago (pre surgery, but I had the vericocele so long it wouldn’t go that much higher). Not sure why I struggle with this.

     

    I think, since I have baby number 5 coming and see a lot of my old friends (70s, 80s) dying and some in their early 40s having heart attacks etc and I really wanna be around forever, and I’m not sure how much harm I’m doing with test, hcg, arimidex then blasting test and deca 400 each for half the year...

     

    Anyway, thanks again for the invite input and advice!

    Coming off “trt”, got my LH to .7, any hope?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Long back story, but gist is that I had low T because of a vericocele (TT 388 at age 29)... 41 now.

    had it fixed but never really rechecked and years later a hrt clinic doc prescribed trt cause I felt tired and miserable and he said I had no hope going to good natural levels.

     

    I stopped back in 2014, gold turkey and my TT was 144 after 10 weeks.

     

    So I’ve been on trt ever since. I tried so many restarts with different methods, scaly pct, etc. my TT never got above 40 and LH been zero.

     

    I tried one last restart using enclomiphene 25 daily x 30 days and lupron 1 mg x 2 doses spaced a week apart (day 22 and day 30). My LH went to .7! (Checked day 31). My TT values I think were wrong, said 1700 (using immunoassay not LC/ms) but I had no hcg or test, and I felt like shit. Anyway, think there’s any hope at regaining natural levels?

    Trt vs low chronic blast?

    in Steroid Talk

    Posted

    Good for you worm! I'm currently on a trt protocol as well. My internist has prescribed 250 mg Test Cyp a week which is great. My recent free T results were 272 and Total T at 869. I also have a script from the endocrinologist for 4 iu/per day for 24 weeks. Pretty sick actually.

     

    I do think increasing your test is a the correct approach. You mentioned still feeling run down etc. I'm sure with 4 kids and family responsibilities that will do it. I'm 44 with a 6 year old and I often want to jump off a bridge. (kidding of course). How's your diet and supplements? Are you sleeping well? Have you had a sleep study? How often are you exercising? Lastly, how much time do you spend clearing your mind and gathering your thoughts? I ask because at one point I started experiencing the symptoms you described. I had taken some time away from the dark side and honestly I felt awful. Sustaining your test levels will help tremendously. Good luck my man.

     

    Thanks, this helps a ton. My sleep is all over the place, almost every night I get up either to pee or most often kids crying, coughing, vomiting etc... can’t help that.

    Also, I don’t get 10 mins to myself. Plan on trying that but baby number 5 is due in 5 weeks so I don’t see that changing...

     

    I tried an experiment with Lupron one shot 1mg and enclomiphene but I feel like shit. Going to get labs again and see. But yes plan on test 200 and deca200 and see what happens...

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