Theworm

Finally on trt! Feels weird be able to keep my test vials right in my kitchen, lol.

Life is so much better on trt, no idea why it took me so long to see the light

No more PCT!!!

My main concern is the hair loss. Everyone says how safe primo is, but I still think deca is safer, especially for hair, but the only issue with deca is bloating for me which diet and an AI work fine...

Again, I mean deca is probably the safest if on trt and not worried about shut down

Yeah, I really don't care about IM injections, I can do that every day. I just don't wanna mess around with creams

tell her your wife is a nurse and you prefer to have her inject it intramusclular. Test is usually injected IM so that may be the reason shes raising her eye brows. You can inject it however you want after you get a the script. Look up the effectiveness of creams and patches. Tell her the reasons you prefer injects....one being flucuations of test levels. you can try the cream and tell her that you feel great for a few days and feel like shit the rest. That way she feels like she tried everything and inject is the last resort.

Agree. I told her there is more aromatase in the skin, so transdermal application results in more estrogen. She was shocked and said she had to research that.

You had low test 10 years ago. Its probably never gonna be normal. When did you test the 300? Was it right after a cycle?

No, the 300 was months after a cycle...

I'm excited to start and never have to Pct again, but my endocrinologist is dragging her damn feet. Not sure why she hasn't called me yet, she has all the labs. I think I put her off by saying I don't want a cream that she recommends but I want 50 mg injected subQ every 3.5 days. She said she never heard of that. WTF? She's an endocrinologist...

Whats your stats bro? age ect. These things weight in HEAVILY to your decision makin in these matters.

I'm 38, 6'4, 230 pounds. Had test levels checked 10 years ago and total test was 300. I usually do 2 cycles a year and use test deca and anavar mainly. I know the deca shuts me down hard, but at least I suffer no hair loss on it. I am reluctant to do trt but it's starting to look better and better. My last Pct sucked ass, and having a test level of 17, ten weeks post cycle, I don't think there is much hope.

It's a difficult decision, but I think it's healthier to TRT than to have test levels of 17.

Evidence: research on prostate cancer shows huge increase risk of cardiac events during androgen deprivation therapy, 2x risk even as early as 6 months into ADT.

Those are my thoughts.

If u can do injections id do this in a heart beat

Do what? TRT?

Any update on where your test levels were at?

Yes. Just got labs back. Now we are 13 weeks post deca and 10 weeks post test

Lh still zero

Test levels have fallen to 17! Free test was 2.6!

I like what squat is saying but damn I even did clomid and nolva in that 2 week span.

My endo seems reluctant to start anything, dragging her feet. I really think there is no hope in a HPTA restart. But I'm ok going on trt, I can get my insurance to cover my test.

Saw an endocrinologist and she wants me to recheck labs again end of the week (it will be 2 weeks since last bloods), I've been on clomid and nolva x 2 weeks...if my test is still super low and LH zero, I'm going on TRT

I feel like shit all the time.

Yes, everything (test, nandrolone, clomid, nolva etc) all from a us pharmacy

Here's what I'm thinking. I did 800 mg on November 17 (rest of cycle I did 5-600), I just wanted to use it up per se.

So assuming half life is 14 days, then 2nd week into Pct I still had 100 mg present (of nandrolone). When I finished Pct I still had 50 mg... so that's why I am still shut down maybe.

So I'm going to do another 4 weeks clomid and nolva and recheck.

Think the deca is still lingering causing shut down still?

I ran hcg right up to Pct then weeks 1-2 I ran clomid at 50 twice a day. Week3-4 clomid 50 daily

Weeks 1-5 nolvadex 20 mg daily....

finished Pct about 3 weeks ago

I'm going to see an endocrinologist but I just don't think they will understand maybe. better than me just quessing.

But I find it weird almost 12 weeks since my last deca shot my Lh is zero... but that's what's most likely going on I think

My Pct was one week after last shot of test prop...

Anyway, just do clomid for 6 weeks?

Started Pct 4.5 weeks after deca, 3 weeks after test cyp and 5-7 days after last test prop. I think the timing was good. It's been 11-12 weeks since last deca shot, I think maybe that's still lingering?

I ran a 15 week cycle of test 500, deca 6-700... I ran arimidex, hcg and caber on cycle.

My last deca shot was nov 17, last test cyp was nov 29. I was also running a little prop at 50 EOD, last shot dec 11.

Pct was nolva and clomid dec 18-Jan 16 or so.(4-5 weeks). Off pct for about 3-4 weeks.

Labs: test levels pending. I suspect it to be low cause I feel tired etc..

Test levels still pending.

Prolactin, estradiol, dhea all normal

Fsh low 1.2 (normal 1.6-9)

LH low <.2 (normal 1.6-8.6)

Thoughts so far? I know we need to wait for the test levels.

Retarded Shitstain, MD asking if an herbal supplement raises test by 50%. You can't make this shit up.

You got issues son

From reviews etc, seems to increase test by 50%..anyone use it with good results?

Starting to think there's nothing really I can take while off to grow... Maybe DAA, vit D, and zinc. I may take sermorelin and GHRP2,6 just for placebo affect...

I hear some saying very similar to superdrol... Anyone have insight?

Anyone have experience with his theory? The thought he says is you blast for 2 weeks with short esters, orals, then small pct. he says 2 weeks the pituitary doesn't get shut down and the testes actually get sensitized so after 2 weeks you get no shutdown and test levels actually increase afterwards. The though is, you can gain 5 pounds, and keep it, then keep building on this. He says over the course of a year you'll have more muscle build than a 16 week cycle if they follow time on = time off, cause they will lose most their gains in 16 weeks off.

I know many will blast this approach and say you need to be on forever, but anyone have experience with this? Is this theory flawed?he has a case study posted with good bloods to back him up. Thoughts?, Especially if goals are a decent build and no plans to compete etc. ( i.e. Life more important than BB, but still wanna look good).

Blast away...

What do u notice with tbol and var together? What doses etc?

I was reading bill Roberts theory that anavar and dbol go really well together ( the old class 1 plus class 2)

So my question, in general, in terms of lean muscle increases, would 50 var plus 25 dbol be better than say 20 mg superdrol?

Not a peep from wetlook, I was expecting that.

Not that I give a fuck but I also dont think your a MD and if you are god help your patients

My patients love me. I just talk like this to Internet tough guys. Care to take the bet as well? Didn't think so