Theworm

I'm also on vitamin b6 to control prolactin... I get that from Walgreens

It's likely from dbol. Not sure if AI can block their conversion to estradiol, and from what I remember dbol converts to something even more powerful than regular estrogen, thus resulting in aggressive gyno. Once the estrogen is in the system AI won't help. Best bet is to take SERMS which block estrogen receptors until the insulting g compound is out of system. I would run arimidex 1/2- 1mg 2 x weekly and run Nolva 20mg daily until you stop dbol.

Thank you, that's what I was going to do! Appreciate the advice

i use nolva also in conjunction with clomid after every cycle. I have never used relaxitaxi.... it sounds nice tho. like a taxi you relax in. maybe with a massage.

 

i still am on the fence about the legal var and deca. while your statements are true about the whole fda thing cocaine is also fda approved and you aint getting that shit.

 

maybe you are on prescription deca, but i have a hard time believing it. I would really like someone on here to say yea man i had a doc get me a deca script before. that is someone whos been active for over a month. no offence. i would have been more liable to believe you got human grade deca but still through illegal means.

Pm me, I send u a pic of my vials. Why would I lie about this? I've only been here a month but I have been on getbig for a decade. I have doc prescribe hg deca... Guess I'm not that stupid! Lol

Anyway, one clinic has a 10 ml for 395, another it's 200... Well worth it for me, all to stay legal. I know others on here who have it too, we just don't like to advertise it

Ah I am not real worried about wet look

 

 

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You should be, he seems really tough!

Seriously though, why can't there be a discussion without name calling? We are supposed to support each other on boards like this...

If I'm doing something wrong for 10 years then I want to know. I do appreciate the advice wetlook.

Here's my deal, I do 2 cycles a year, mainly deca 400 and test 300 and used arimidex 0.5 EOD and never had any issues whatsoever. People say I'm stupid all the time cause I run my deca higher but I never had any issues at all, and it worked for me. My last cycle I upped the test and added dbol and worsened my gyno ( hence the original question). So if I have been doing something wrong that fucked my body up like wetlook says, I hope someone could pint that out. Thanks for the useful help, even wetlook

I like nolva....

 

 

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You better not say that or wet look is going to call you stupid! Lol

Thanks tough guy! Lol

Please explain how my questions are the stupidest ever? I simply asked if switching to aromasin was better than using arimidex for gyno, how is that a stupid question? Sorry it got your panties in a bunch

I don't doubt you. I just was under the impression that if you dont have aids.... no var for you.

 

Also in USA I've never met anyone with a scrip for deca. I also can't recall anyone on this board with a deca script. Apparently its for anemia....

 

I have a sick bull think i can get a script for tren?

you can get any fda approved drug for the right reason. Ox, deca is fda approved... Tren is not, lol, unless you are a horse, but then it's only the finaplex pellets injected

Back in 2009 there was treasure coast pharmacy that had everything! Test, deca, winstrol, var, even anadrol!!! They got quickly shut down.

I mean I take pharma exemestan every other day if I feel my estro is high. So if I had gyno I would be taking my AI with far greater frequency. Nolva everyday yes.

 

 

How do you obtain "legal" DECA?

After 10 years in the game I guess I learn a few tricks! Lol. I may not know about terem but I know how to get legal oxandrolone and nandrolone as well as much test as I want. Just do some research and it's not hard to find at all. Just expect to pay more!

I know all the basics, it's just hard to find any real science on the subject, most of it is bro science, but I like to ask a lot of questions cause every now and then I learn something I didn't. I really believe the only stupid question is the one not asked.

I do know most of that, just having a conversation. You will never be smarter without asking questions. The only thing new I learned was torem... Which was helpful

With that being said, in case it's hard to find torem cause I get all my stuff legally ( except dbol) what if I used nolva daily by did 1 mg arimidex twice a week?

You should be on a SERM before an AI for gyno issues, and you should be taking it every day, not every other day.

 

I don't mean to attack you but in another thread you said you had been cycling for ten years. You seem to make a lot of mistakes/asking a lot of questions that no one who has been in the steroids game for ten years should be making.

Then how come almost every post in this thread has a different opinion. I guess every board has its resident asshole.

I read to use nolva, then William levellyn who is much more of an expert than you says to use an AI. I was just getting different opinions and starting a conversation, but thanks for your opinion.

I'm rock hard all the time

I'm so confused now, that's why I am now on nolvadex EOD and arimidex 1 mg EOD

500 test, 400 deca... 25 dbol maybe 3 times a week. Yes, everything from US pharmacies

On test deca, dbol pre workout. Have gyno and not sure if it's worsening. On arimidex .5 EOD... Should I switch to aromasin?

Any bodybuilding benefits? I was told it's very similar to winstrol

Any help?

I run human grade all the time and never experienced that. Maybe it's not var?

I have to disagree. Correctly coming off can be done with little to no "steps back"

 

Nothing should be done indefinitely.

Care to expand? How do u do it etc?

Others think the same?

To me it seems like it, and the most bang for the buck as well, if that matters.

Money really doesn't matter, so i will also add pharm grade oxandrolone 50 mg to the mix and run it weeks 7-14

Sounds like a decent cycle!

How about a combination of your ideas...600 test, 400 deca, 16 weeks?

I was thinking the same thing, cut the bullshit and run 400 deca X 12 weeks and test 5-600 X 14 weeks ... Maybe the best option?

Some future cycle thoughts to minimize potential for hair loss.

Was thinking test 300 X 14 weeks, deca 400x 12 weeks and 50 anavar weeks 7-14

Or test 300 X 14 weeks, deca 400x 12 weeks, primo 300 X 14 weeks, 50 Anavar

I either hear primo is safe for hair, others say it's one of the worst ???

Or is it more bank for buck to do 300 test , 400 deca, 300-500 EQ, 50 var

Or just do test 5-600, finasteride and anavar

Thoughts? Not being indecisive just have an interest in the topic and bored right now

If your hpta function is still going strong then stay with pct. Vut Nerve is right, the older you get the lower your total test and less gains are kept. You start feeling like you are just spinning your wheels. I finally did it at 41. I had been suffering from low T for years though before i decided. As long as you actually drop to a trt dose between cycles your health risks are minimal.

 

As far as hcg use 250ius twice a week is all you need, imo.

Agree! I'm 37 and trying to hold off HRt for at least 5 more years. Trying to maintain my hpta as much as possible right now.

What about the health aspects? Just scared to jump on forever. Prostate cancer, cardiovascular issues etc...

Plan; test 500 X 14 week

Deca 400 X 12 weeks

Var 50 X weeks 7-14

All HG pharma stuff

I cycle, but it's not the point of the thread. I wanna good pct after, so to help prevent a long recovery I was going to do hcg during the cycle but everyone has different dose recs and ideas. Maybe 500 iu twice a week was what most recommended?

I don't mean to jump on you or make you feel unwelcome in any way, but what the hell is it with all these new guys and "cycles"? Who the hell cycles? Do you have an extreme need to throw money down the toilet?

 

Blast for ten months, cruise for two, and repeat the process. That's the sweet spot.

Ive been cycling for 10 years, it just works for me

I do time off = time on and therefore I keep my balls working. No need for permanent HRt and dependent on a needle. I feel healthier off, less sweaty, less red, no crazy night sweats and my cholesterol normalizes. Just gives my body a break for a while. I train hard and keep decent gains. William levellyn told me its best to cycle and he is one of the top gurus in the steroid world