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painlesspumps.com Its not mct oil. Its made of synovial fluid

Hos growth prices are to good to be true also.... i did order a humatrope just to see,along with some caber and adex. We will see how things look when they arrive

I would not spend any of my $ on pharma grade gh unless I got it with the prescription label ripped off but still enough left on to know it was genuine. If you look close enough you will find somebody on here that has access to it for decent prices. All gh bought from Europe is extremely risky. I am not saying there are NO sources that sell genuine gh. I am saying there are very few. Also most brands of gh are extremely sensitive to heat so they must be kept cold at all times. I know genotropin, saizen, and serostim are ok during shipping. But stuff like omnitrope, humatrope, norditropin, etc must be shipped on ice and kept cold. For the price you would be paying risking from Europe, I would rather pay a lil extra and get it domestic from somebody who has access pre scripted American gh. Atleast your guaranteed its legit. For the price, I think omnitrope is the best all around brand. I have used just about every single American brand of gh. Humatrope would be my all time favorite but for the price, omni was almost as good. I get omni for half the price of huma as well.

Has anyone dealt or heard of pharmacystore.us. They have killer deals and one is 100amps rimobolan for $750. I want to pull the trigger but everyone warns me that legit hg primo is hard to find. I most likely be giving these guys a chance but wanted to know if anyone could give me any pointers in what to look for or if anyone has heard any feedback from this particular source or will I be the first one. I have some alpha pharma primo I will be comparing the two and reporting. Before I pull the trigger, any feedback would be appreciated. I know some guys here that get legit hg primo and know more about this stuff than I ever could gather on Google.

The dude sells mostly knockoffs. I knw for a fact his primo are counterfeit. Rimo just came out several months ago and there are already knockoffs. One way to tell is the oil is thinner in the knock offs.

Halo tabs from batch 1 and batch 2. Left tab is batch 2 hence being smaller. Tab on right is batch 1 which is left over from my prep. [ATTACH=CONFIG]2615[/ATTACH]

Test A for halo is supposed to be yellow. The stuff you have turned orange. THe american halo I tested turned yellow immediately after the powder hit the vial.

Oh and I allowed this thread and the 2 year old thread with the labmax results to be posted...So if you are in anyway, shape or form implying that I'm trying to protect any sources your shit out of luck there. What I am trying to do is make it where it's Fair...and not some random person can say so and so cialis or tbol is bunk because my buddy said so.

 

Well clearly you don't need labmax or ED test to prove If cialis is legit. I suggest you send off some of your tabs to ED or do labmax on them instead of discrediting me. Maybe u got real tabs cuz ur a mod. Who knows. But back to what this thread is really about....halo failed ED test. We can have a pissing Match all day about If Lab max is accurate or not. We can't argue about solid hard proof from a real testing Lab like ED. I told you when I 1st ran lab max on those halo and they failed. All you said was ok thanks like you didn't believe me. So I went ahead and sent em off to ED for solid proof and it looks like I was right. This thread needs to get back on track about the real post....halo. let's all wait to see what tab man's supplier has to say.

So someone spends all this time, money and energy randomly testing labs from AB with no agenda ? Hmmmmmmm....I might add over the course of the past couple years.

Ya I have spent lots of $ to have faith that what I'm putting inu body is what it's supposed to be. I have sent bayer rimobolan and pharma swiss omnadren to steroidcheck to see if they were legit since both are brand new to the market. Both passed using same testing K used on all his products. I never posted the results cuz neither product was bought from any sources here so it didn't matter. But if someone were to question either one I would have chimed in.

What a coincidence

 

http://anabolicboard.com/forums/showthread.php/23073-shocking-lab-test-results?highlight=Strango+fake

Lmao what's my agenda bro? I like to keep honest people honest. You even said yourself you trust no one. So why don't you do your own testing instead of getting so upset some results don't turn out the way you wish fhey would. I don't trust anybody either. That's why I randomly do this testing. I think it would be unfair if I knew some sources were cutting corners and did not speak up. If you knew me in person I'm the guy at the gym who competted for years that now preps others. Tons of guys from my town turn to me for advice and to look at their gear cuz they knw I'm honest and trust my expertise. Do you ever see me sucking any sources nuts trying to whore out their products? I'm just a fellow bb'er like u brotha. Im just looking out for other good Bros. I guess I never felt I had to post proof cuz I'm so used to others trusting me.

Ok ok so we have no hard proof like a lab copy saying his clen or his tbol are fake ?

Nope just my word which I have zero reason to lie. I could see if I had a hidden agenda but I been a member here since 2004 I've have put my ass on the line several times defending myself against other sources that were cutting corners. I never said his tbol were fake. I said they failed test a on Lab max. I only tested them once cuz I didn't wanna waste several test vials on them when I had several other products to test. If others are really concerned about tab man's products then I encourage them to run their own tests. I just found it strange how 2 brands of clen passed lab max and tab man and vermodje didn't. Especially after a few buddies claimed the Vermodje clen was bunk. Then it failed lab max. But if Lab max was inaccurate then so pharma and alpha pharma would have failed too. I guess from now on I won't mention any lab max testing I do and will let others find out for themselves if what they are buying is legit or not. I was only trying to share my experience. The anavar PD sent me from tab man will be here today. I will take pics of the results of this product from tab man only. After this I am done testing any of his products and will let others spend their $ getting his stuff tested.

K got his testing done thru steroidcheck.com. They cannot perform testing on halo yet. They are more expensive to test tabs vs ecstasydata.org. If you need oils tested I would say go thru steroidcheck. If you want tabs tested, its cheaper to go thru Ecstasydata.

When ever I use lab max to test tabs I crush the entire tab. I take a sample from the middle of the pile. If whatever I am testing fails, I do a few more tests on it using the same tab I have crushed up. Sometimes I will try to use the entire tab having to perform 6 tests on it....3 on test a and 3 on test b. This way if more filler was in the sample I put into the test vial vs actual hormone, then more hormone will be put in the next test vial. Either way I have done enough lab max testing to be able to perform the tests well. I know lab max is pretty damn accurate because every single REAL hg tab I ever tested has always easily passed. Its pretty clear when you have a pass. Just because a tab is made by a ug lab using their own fillers combined with raw hormone, if I test the entire tab then its pretty apparent if there is any real hormone present. For the guys who say they used a certain product that failed lab max but still got results does not mean you are using what you think you are. For example, primo could fail lab max because it was really eq. You would still get results and think its primo. I have seen some labs sub npp or npp mixed with mast as their primo. Again, you would still get results and not question your primo. I have seen HG sust test out as pure enan. I remember when both Uncle Z and RBB got caught selling omna that tested out as pure enan. So many guys were calling bullshit saying they got great results off those omna and had bloodwork showing elvated test levels. Ok maybe you did but its cuz you were using test e not omna. I knew a local guy that used to make his own gear bragging how good it was. I always had my doubts because his prices were too good to be true. After he cheated on his chick, she exposed him telling all the shady shit he would do. He would sell low dosed test prop as mast. He would mix flaxseed oil in with test ace and sell it as tren ace so the color would be darker. He would add more ba in his test e and sell it as sust since the higher ba would leave ya with a knot the next day and you would assume its from the prop. Heck, Magnum used to sell test e and label it test cyp. When ghg was remailing for him he told me personally. Since neither one is no longer a member here I dont care about saying this. These are just some examples of what some sources are doing. I am in no way saying any source currently on AB is doing this. I am just sharing some of my knowledge.

i don't want this ignored...

If you are referring to my post then no I didnt video the test or take any pics. I did the testing for myself. Like I stated earlier, I was not going to mention it but thought I would since every body else was being so honest. If anybody has any lab max lying around I encourage them to do further testing on Tab man products just to see. IM was the only person I informed of the results. I remember Naps stating lots of research companies and ug labs don't sell real clen cuz it's so hard to accurately dose something that is in mcg. He said clen will be replaced with high doses of caffeine or some other cheap stimulant. I am not saying this is what tab man is doing....I'm just repeating what Naps said.

Well not to piss on tab mans parade and kick a man while he is down but since others are being so honest I thought I should add I also ran labmax on his tbol and clen. The clen failed so just to make sure the test was accurate I tested every other brand I had on hand. I tested sopharma clen from bulgaria, alpha pharma astralean, and vermodje clen. I know for a fact the sopharma were real but I never tried the vermodje or alpha pharma. I have had buddies say they did not feel anything off the vermodje and I never heard a single complaint on alpha pharma but never took it myself so could not prove it was good or bad. Anyways, sopharma and alpha pharma passed lab max but vermodje failed. So I guess that explains why my buddies reported no effects on vermodje and lab max confirmed it. As far as the tbol goes, I normally run lab max Test A and B to get a more accurate conclusion. I was running low on test vials so I only ran Test A on the tbol. It failed but so did Pharmacom tbol. I only ran Test A on both these labs so I dont think it would be fair to say it is 100% not tbol because I did not follow up with Test B. I have tested biospira tbol and it passed but that was using Test B....I never ran Test A on biospira. Finally, I felt nothing off Tab Man cialis. I been using npp recently to help with a partial tear I have in my left tricep so my sex drive has been slightly lower. I took 1 tab man cialis and felt nothing. I blammed my lower sex drive for it not working. So next time I took 2 of his cialis and still nothing. I had a good buddy who has american cialis try some out to see if he felt them working since he is an Cialis whore. He said he didnt feel anything off taking 2 (40mg). The next day he took 4 of these cialis and still nothing. So I guess its not just me that did not feel them working. He gave me just 1 20mg cialis and I got harder than a rhino horn. The worst part is when my wife got home from work I was ready to smash her with my rhino horn but she ended up saying she had a bad migraine and needed to go lay down for a minute. Needless to say she passed out and i got screwed over. So miss jada stevens got a lil visit and lets just say I hope I dont have a partial tear in my right tricep.

I sent ecstasydata an email yesterday asking if they can 100% test for Fluoxymesterone just to make sure and here is their response:

EcstasyData <[email protected]>

8:32 AM (25 minutes ago)

to me

> https://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3723

No drugs at all were found in the sample. Fluoxymesterone would show up if it were there.

earth

And may I add this piece of info....once you submit your sample toecstasydata.org you are never emailed or notified your sample was finally tested. When you send in your sample you have a 5 digit code you give them that only you and them would know. You have to keep checking the website to see if your sample was tested. This way nobody can tamper with the results. Mass spec tests done from other labs that email you the results can easily be altered.

Spoke with my partner and we have a labmax test kit to test out the halo raw. We will be testing it as soon as we can.

Bro, I dunno why you keep trying to discredit me when I have nothing but solid proof. If Lab max is no good then why are you going to waste your $ buying it?? You keep contradicting yourself. First you say, ecstasydata is no good. But you have told other members to go ahead and send any of your products there for proof and you will reimburse them if anything fails. Then you say labmax cannot test tabs, only pure powders.... And my results were not solid because of this... but after seeing labmax website saying this is inaccurate you say the result of your halo turning orange where real halo turns yellow could be my eyes trying tricks with me as "orange is pretty close to yellow"....so I guess all orange juice should now be called yellow juice. I guess next time I go to the bar I will ask for a screw driver with yellow juice and vodka. If lab max is so inaccurate then why did my american halo and alpha labs halo both turn YELLOW...not orange?? If you test your own halo raw and it fails are you really going to be honest about it? That is what worries me the most. Maybe you do have real halo and selective scam like CF mentioned. By you doing your own testing does not prove that the halo me and several others were sent is real halo. It would be like a source selling knockoff test amps saying go get blood work done to see if the amps were real. Blood work wont prove the amps were made in a real factory, they only prove some hormone was in the vial regardless if it was ug made or not. You could test real halo and say see it passed lab max. It would be very strange if this were the case because why did mine fail, yet yours passed?? I tested both batches you sent and both failed. I would like to think CF was onto something saying that your powder guy is the one who may have scammed you. You mentioned you pressed several thousand tabs of halo. This is a nice profit for the powder source if he sent you something else instead of halo. I am not saying this is the case but these fuckers in China are sketchy greedy bastards. I would like some other members that have lab max kits on hand to do testing on some of his other products just to see.

JOEBIG, you state you tested my tab with labmax? Are you aware once a tablet is formulated a labmax test won’t work? Labmax is specifically for testing pure hormone, not the binders of the tablet. Each tablet is containing 10mg of fluoxymesterone. Do you have any idea how small 10mg is? It’s not going to show up in a labmax test because there is tons more other shit in the tablet.

 

First off, I am not coming at you calling you a scammer. I been a member on this board 11 yrs. You been here 3 mths. I am one of the most honest, genuine guys you will ever meet. I have a true passion for helping others and looking out for them. I have put my ass on the line and risked getting banned at several boards just to put a stop to some shady sources. I have gotten banned at several boards for exposing these people. i put my ass on the line just to help save some good bros their hard earned $ cuz nothing makes me more sick then seeing good bros getting deceived. I got scammed by guys over the years when I was younger and naive so I know how it feels to be on the receiving end. I made it my mission to help out younger guys and newbies from getting screwed over. With that being said, my plan was not to go after your business and screw you over. You seem like a good guy but that doesnt mean I trust you 100%. Trust has to be earned. With halo and primo I honestly believe very few sources are actually carrying the real deal. I am in no way saying you purposely bought and sold something that is not 100% real halo and tried to deceive any of us. I wanted to run a lab max test on these halo because I like to keep honest people honest. If you are saying "ONCE A TAB IS FORMULATED LAB MAX WONT WORK" thats the biggest line of BS hog wash I ever heard. Go on lab max's website and see for yourself. Every single tab ever made by an hg or ug lab has to be "formulated" by adding some type of filler. It doesnt matter if you mix rat shit with halo power. The lab max is designed to pick up any active hormone present. It will cause a reaction with the reagent inside the lab max test vials that turns a certain color if any actual hormone is present. If lab max cannot test for tabs once formulated then how come my American (HG) halo and Alpha labs (UG) both passed lab max? On the lab max website they state that REAL HALO turns yellow immediately once put into test vials A and B. With my American ones and Alpha labs they both immediately turned yellow....but when I tested your ORANGE HALO it turned an orangish color then pinkish red. Dbol turns red and tbol turns salmon but nothing I could find starts out as orange. Lab max even states on their site that the color of the tab has ZERO effect on the results. If this were the case then my green american halo would have turned green.

 

TAKEN FROM LAB MAX WEBSITE:

 

It is very easy to use the test kit. You only need less than a tiny drop of liquid or powder (grinded tablet) to drop into the vial and observe the color change and compare with the chart. You use only tiny drop of liquid or about 1 mg of powder, adding a little more will not spoil the test results but try to keep at lower end. The test was designed for small amounts of test sample.

Winstrol and anavar have special test vial (the one with yellow test substance). You need to grind the pill into power and observe the color after 15 minutes, if you have yellow - green it is anavar, if it is olive - green then you have winstrol. You have to read the colors after 15 minutes, later they will become dark and impossible to interpret. Remember you only need tiny amount to drop inside. Check this page for detailed information on anavar/winstrol test.

 

The color of the pill (dye) does not affect the test results. The test will only react with active substance producing expected color. Take a look at the training video a blue pill was used and the color of the pill did not have any influence on the test result.

 

 

I have two pros getting ready to compete now on my halo and they look fucking unbelievable. They’re loving the halo along with other members of this board. I personally used the halo for my last prep at 30mg vs 40mg because I couldn’t take the sides.

 

Just because you have 2 pros you claim use your halo means absolutely nothing. The pros are running 20 different products at once. How can they know what the heck is doing what. Most guys take a pre workout prior to training as well. So just because somebody claims they "felt stronger and more aggressive" in the gym...does it mean they really took real halo or maybe it was their pre workout drink doing all the magic. I took ESP by Metabolic Nutrition last night for my pre workout. I felt stronger and more aggressive. Maybe they put halo in there. LOL

 

Shit, I know a pro who was using IP's yellow top Somatropin claiming it was so bad ass. Then Ronny T off Juiced Muscle did an extensive testing on several brands of gh and found these same IP yellow tops to contain nothing but pure Albumin. So how great was this gh after all that this certain pro was bragging about??? And I wont say who this pro was but his initials are CF (only joking).

 

Maybe you did sell these pros real halo but the stuff you sent me was not. Otherwise ecstasydata.org would have picked it up. They use the SWGDrug library for their testing which has just about every single compound known to man. If they are able to test for methyltest then they can test for halo.

 

My two questions for JB and IM:

JOEBIG if my halo is no good, why did you order more from me approximately 5 days ago if you were questioning if it was bad or not?

 

I had owed a client halo that he already paid for. I placed the order with you before I have received the actual results from ecstasydata.org. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. You want to discredit Lab max but have you ever used it? I hate when every time there is a FAIL for a product sold the source wants to immediately discredit Lab max. I understand LABMAX is not 100% tell all- end all as being pure proof, but my question is how come American halo and alpha labs halo passed but yours did not? I tested your 1st batch (bigger orange tabs) atleast 3x just to make sure I wasnt fucking up. I used the entire tab over 3 test vials putting in a small amount each time just to make sure the sample of powder I was putting into the vial did not contain more filler than actual hormone. Each and every time it was the same result. Your 2nd batch of halo was smaller orange tabs so you used less filler this time. The lab max should have been easier to determine any real hormone present since less filler was used. I ran this test about 3x and same result each time. You claim 10mg is such a small amount but so is just about every other tab made....dbol, tbol, nolvadex, winny, etc. So if 10mg is such a TINY AMOUNT how come lab max is able to distinguish real var, dbol, tbol, winny, etc??? i have used lab max enough times to determine what is real and what isn't. I have tested my american var, a50, and halo just to see if the test was accurate. They all passed so clearly lab max is accurate. I have tested several brands of ug var, a50, dbol etc and some passed and some did not so I can tell when I have a product that is not what it claims to be. If your halo is mixed with any other hormone then the lab max is not accurate and will not be a clear indicator if there is any halo present.....but ecstasydata.org would have been able to pick it up. So lets say you decide to put 5mg halo with 5mg methyl-test or superdrol, then you are half right.....the conclusion would be yes those orange halo did contain real halo but it was not 10mg of PURE HALO that I paid for and lab max test result would not be accurate.

Well the halo i was given are orange. The ones that CF was given are purple. I dunno if there was a mix up or what. I did not think the halo was fake. That is not why I had it tested. I have several clients I prep for shows that need to take 100% legit halo. It is my name on the line so I want to make sure each and every one of my competitors comes in their best condition. I think that halo really puts the finishing touches the last few weeks prior to stepping on stage. With that being said, I did a lab max test on the halo and it failed. I had american halo and alpha labs halo. Both of them passed so I know the lab max test was accurate. When I tested tab man's they did not turn the color they were supposed to. I thought maybe there was some sort of mix up but I did not want to stir any drama or be the guy that complains without an actual mass spec test done by a professional lab saying it was not halo. Italian told me about ectasydata.org being able to test just about any tab you have. Him and I decided to send it off for testing as we had seen a few other members saying how great these halo were. Needless to say, I was disappointed when the results came back as it not being either halo or methyl-test which is what lots of labs sell as halo.

Hey kingman I think you forgot to adjust your qty on the nolva. Wasnt that the price for 20mg nolva 30ct? I think you edited it to say 10mg but forgot to adjust the qty to 60 tabs.

Cody looks very impressive in person. He trains at my gym. He trains smart. I've never seen him pull any branch Warren shit and let his ego take over throwing too heavy of weight around. He is gonna take at least a year off to grow before stepping on a pro stage.

I take my statement back about him taking a year off.....he said he plans on doing the Arnold!

Cody looks very impressive in person. He trains at my gym. He trains smart. I've never seen him pull any branch Warren shit and let his ego take over throwing too heavy of weight around. He is gonna take at least a year off to grow before stepping on a pro stage.

Got the from the same source as the Proviron (and are packaged the same way) they look and feel pretty legit to me, but I guess anything can be faked although that doesnt seem to be the case with these.

Those are knock offs>Bayer does not make oxandrolone or dbol. Lots of hg proviron is highly faked too. The tabs are slightly thicker on the fakes....these are the paki proviron I am speaking of. DS even said himself that lots of Bayer proviron is counterfeit.

Pharma swiss omna are 100% legit. I would avoid any jelfa amps. They are most likely counterfeit.

I think he meant you were getting gyno from the high dose of test and possibly using weak or bunk AI. Either that or he is saying it's progesterone conversion from the tren ace.

Looking big as fuck as always.

You been busting your ass 3 mths for this trip.....just enjoy yourself and don't hold back. Eat clean before hitting up the beach then drink whIle out there. The sun will help ya sweat off the calories. Lol you can cheat and eat whatever you want at night cuz you will be so depleted from being in the sun all day. I always bring cytomel with me on vacation to help out.