Rider

I use it back in 2004, only did 40mcg pwo on workout days. It was before I every used gh and it worked great. I gained 5lbs in 5 weeks and had to put two separate holes in my belt because no matter how much I ate my waist was still shrinking and the pump was awesome.

 

I don't think it's as good as it once was since after that everyone starts selling and weak shit started to flood the market. I'm sure it worked good for me because like I said I've never done gh and it was something totally new to my body.

 

It worked real fast also. I tried to use it again but got sick and only ran it for a couple weeks.

 

I wish there was some legit igf out there because I would definitely run it again. I had some friends that ran some of HK's igf when he was still selling it and they seemed to like it.

Same with me. I ran it in 2005, and loved it. My pants felt loose, I couldn't understand why? There was no change in my diet. I was doing a bulking cycle at the time too. I attribute it to Omega's IGF.

I've used IGF several times after that but nothing compared to 2005's stuff. I woudn't waste my money on IGF with the stuff out there today.

I did this before. I used ephedrine plus the old San Tight formula which was basically caffeine and Yohimbe. Overall, I can tell you its stronger than ECA, but your blood pressure will really shoot up through the roof with this one. I don't recommend it, stick with EC

Nolvadex will only bind to the existing estrogen in your body not allowing it to act which will stop any further gyno. Nolva will not decrease the existing gyno in size. The only thing you will find that will actually decrease the inflammation will be letro IMO.

 

I would run both nolva and letro simultanelously if I were you. Nolva will bind to the existing estrogen in the body not allowing it to act thus not increasing your gyno problem and the letro (which has a longer half life) will kick in later to lower total estrogen and possibly (did in my case) decrease inflammation.

 

Money shouldn't be an issue here...if you have enough money to run a cycle and eat properly you should have enough money to take care of these common occurences and liabilites associated with your choice of cycling. Take care of yourself man!

Yes! Agreed, great points!

gyno never seems to be a prob for me. I want some low(ish) dose deca to help with size and the strength will come with the others.

Yeah, I think your set without the deca. No need for it if your running tren. Besides increasing the risk of gyno, you'll also have a harder time "getting it up" if you know what I mean if you do tren and deca on the same cycle. Plus it'll make recovery harder. Not worth it, Imo.

Can u run letro and hcg at the same time during cycle

Yes, that's fine.

3 weeks on dbol and nothing?! Sounds bunk

So how does this look

 

Cycle

Week 1-4 - D-bol 75mgs a day

Week 1-10 - Test E 700mgs a week

Week 1-10 - Deca 300 mgs a week

 

PCT

Week 1 - Nolvadex 40mgs a day

Week 2-4 - Nolvadex 20mgs a day

The Dbol dose is too high. Go with 40-50mg per day and extend usage until week 6.

Drop the Test to 500mg per week.

Deca dose is fine.

Looks like a good bulking cycle, good luck.

Just noticed it now. One correction I need to make about the article is the part about the Niacin.

One should opt for the full-on niacin, not the flush free kind. The flush free kind has only a small benefit to lipids. Using the type that gives you the flush, you will get better results on your lipids.

A good dose would be 1-g niacin daily.

So I checked out the roid calculator.

http://www.anabolicboard.com/forum/showthread.php?p=221129#post221129

 

What I'm trying to do here is find a cycle based on sust that would get me to about 1800-1900 ng/ml of test in my blood.

 

This may not happen because of the fast esters in sust but I want to see what it looks like.

 

After putting the sust in to the calculator I get mg in blood but I dont know how to factor body weight to get approximate ng/ml. Any way to do this?

 

I know there is no substitute for getting blood work done but if the tool works I want to use it

Way too many factors to get an exact number. Everyone's body reacts differently even with Test injections. Some guys it might take 500mg per week, others it may take 750mg per week to reach that amount.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I never tried this before.

Hey Bgptbull, welcome back!

Hey, C_H posted this article on a different forum, I thought it was a good read, and figured I'd post it here.

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When the Daily News approached John Romano about athletes' love affair with Viagra, the senior editor at bodybuilding magazine Muscular Development laughed.

"All the good secrets are getting out," Romano chuckled.

Viagra, first studied as an aid for hypertension, remedies erectile dysfunction by relaxing blood vessels in the penis.

Athletes have found plenty of other reasons to embrace Vitamin V, though.

Romano said many athletes take Viagra with anabolic steroids before a workout, hoping Viagra's ability to dilate blood vessels will help deliver the anabolics to their various muscle groups.

"The object of nutrient delivery is to get as much of it in the muscles ahead of time as possible," said Romano, who said he used Viagra for that reason.

"You want to fortify the blood with whatever you're going to pump in there. Viagra is tailor-made for that because you're slamming in all kinds of amino acids and whatever else, then expanding the muscles and pumping it in there."

Romano pointed to a wide variety of legal nutritional supplements built around the molecule nitric oxide (NO), which is a key component of Viagra.

These supplements - with names like "NO Explode," "Nytric EFX" and "Satur8" - are marketed as preworkout vaso-dilators.

Athletes are notorious for taking any pill or potion that seems to boost their performances, but research indicates Viagra is more than just a fad.

Kenneth Rundell, a respiratory researcher at Marywood University in Scranton, Pa., said Viagra could increase stamina for athletes who compete at oxygen-poor high elevations.

"Any sport that's primarily an aerobic sport would benefit - cross-country skiers, cyclists, marathoners, 10K runners, 5K runners," he said.

For a 2006 study published in the Journal of Applied Physiology, scientists using trained cyclists at high altitudes as test subjects found the drug had a similar effect on the lungs as it did on the penis, improving blood flow and moving more oxygen to muscles.

Those findings echoed a 2004 study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. Scientists discovered improved pulmonary and cardiac performance in Viagra-fueled mountaineers at Mount Everest's base camp, 17,600 feet above sea level.

Other athletes count on Viagra to kick-start their sex lives.

Long-term steroid use, says Gary Wadler, a Long Island physician and an adviser to the World Anti-Doping Agency, causes testicular atrophy, which leads to impotence.

"That may be why these guys started using it in the first place," said Michael Dusa, a Hamden, Conn., chiropractor who treats athletes.

"I suspect they started taking it for impotence and found that it had other benefits, too, but bodybuilders are not the kind of guys who will admit impotence."

Sounds like it might be High Blood Pressure. I recommend supplementing with Super Odorless Garlic to help keep you bp in check. In addition, Taurine helps alleviate muscle cramps. Usually when one is on clen, it would be wise to supplement with Taurine.

It really could be anything!!! One thing is (and this is coming from someone who's mom's side of the family is from Brazil) there are alot of people that get "herbs" from the indigenous indians who are more toward the inner part of Brazil and there are some POWERFUL and I mean POWERFUL things that grow in the AMAZON!!!

 

Now if these caps came in a bottle with a simple label that was in Portuguese I could translate it for you and maybe even translate the ingredients, but if they came in a ziplock bag....the lady that sells them to her could be putting amphetamine in there for all you/your friend knows.

 

One thing your friend could do to find out is go to the doctor and say she bought some diet pills and they made her feel funny. The doctors office will draw blood and maybe be able to find out what she has running through her.

 

Also, your friend should get a physical or at least have some tests run as she NEVER knows if these pills could be damaging something inside and at least some tests will reveal any abnormalities.

Agreed, it a strong possibility!

read some info and seems like a good thing to do...low dose 2x per wk throughout cycle? how much tho? 250 units 2x per wk? let me know

Yes, that's what I do as well

Yeah I basically just got done running some high dose EQ again. It was worthless. I really didn't notice shit. I got way more vascularity off anavar.

 

If you need a collagen increasing steroid, I guess you can grab the EQ instead of deca. But whatever. EQ sucks. I dont think Im running it ever again.

Yes, agreed! I don't get much from EQ either besides becoming a bit more vascular. Rather then spending money on EQ, I'd rather use it to buy more steaks!

yep pretty damn good just wish i knew what they were made of and if anyone has herd of somehting like these

For a woman to lose so much weight so quickly, one can conclude that whatever she used indiscriminately burned not only fat, but muscle as well. Whatever it was, it doesn't seem worth it to me because it sounds dangerous.

One of my female friends told me she was getting these brazzilian fat burning pills she said she has to take 2 different pills ed one gray and one white she. I want to know more about these she dosent even know what there made of but says they work great lost 50 pounds in 2 months. If anyone one has any information about these type of pills please let me know.Im not looking to lose weight just what too know more about what she's taking so i can help her. ps They are not over the counter

 

 

thanks

No way, I think she's getting ripped off! 50 pounds of weight loss in 2 months?!!

Listen to Rider guys..he's on pointThumbsUp

Thanks Titan, much appreciated!!

LOL..I was actually thinking about taking cheque drops in a very small dose just for the aggression but that would probably be a bad idea.

 

 

As for the winny Im doin inject so its not as hard on the liver but i think il just stick with the var instead of halo

Oh man, I know one thing for sure... I would never want to be you're opponent in the ring!! LOL

ya..halo is good, i forgot about that...when do you think I should run it? final 5 weeks?

Yeah, that's work out well, just watch the temper if you use Tren and halo during the same cycle! Lol!

I substitute EQ with NPP. I think NPP is amazing. I also enjoy Proviron, Var, and Masteron. Tren is in a class of its own, but for me, the sides to not justify the gains, plus I'm naturally prone to insomnia and anxiety. From experience, I know I'm a wreck while on tren.

Lately, I stick to clean, quality gains cycles which include test, var, proviron, and occasionally NPP. I find recovery to be a breeze with these cycles. I know a lot of members say NPP is basically fast acting deca, but with NPP, I don't get the water weight/bloated look.

Ya I know tren isnt great for cardio but I love it...your right i might have to cut it out tho....then again i did use dnp while I played ball runnin 4 miles a day..that was a nightmare but talk about losin weight! Whats your opinion on EQ? Never used it but have heard alot of mixed reviews.

Personally, I dont get that much from EQ besides becoming vascular. If I run EQ too long at a high dose I get high blood pressure, and anxiety. IMHO, EQ is weak, and overrated in our community.

oops I forgot my stats...5'11" 185... around 14% bf...gained 30 lbs in the last month. alot of it is fat, looking to get back to 5-6 % bf and staying at the lowest weight possible. (im a fighter)

Morning Cardio on an empty stomach will burn fat like no other! Honestly, forget about methylTrienone. That's oral tren correct? If you're a fighter, tren isn't that good of an idea for you. Cardio is a nightmare on tren!

For a fighter, keep it clean. Use test as a base, (Not a high dose) also go with Var, EQ, Masteron, Proviron. All of these will keep you from gaining significant amounts of weight, all are not toxic, yet they will help with recovery and strength gains!

Heres my upcoming cutting cycle, any input would be great.

 

100mg test prop eod weeks 1-12

150mg tri tren eod weeks 1-12

100 mg masteron eod weeks 1-12

50 mg winny inj ed weeks 1-8

50 mcg ghrp 6 3x/day

50 mcg cjc 1295 3x/day

 

Id like to add an oral for 6 weeks but not sure what yet. Id like to try methyltrienolone but might just stick to var. Also might throw in some proviron, t3, t4, clen? What do you guys think?

Very nice cycle. Yes, Var would fit in well. No need for Proviron since your already using Masteron, but if money is no concern, then I say go for it.

T3 will be a nice addition as well. No need for T4, thats weaker then T3. Also, no need for clen. Preferably, I'd go with ECA over clen any day.