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Hmmmm, I wonder if the fact I have openly had a dialogue with both Defiant and Apex....if the hacker somehow knows me, and so he decided to target DFL and Apex?? I just had a sick feeling when I found out the hacker contacted only Defiant and Apex. Very sick feeling in my stomach, and it instantly made me think this guy knows me through PM or email. I wish I knew who it is but I have no clue? I wish I could help Defiant figure out who the guy is.

Everyone, stay safe and do as Defiant and IM have instructed. If you do not know the entity sending you the email to your proton account, just delete it and do not open it.

I know and feel your pain brother.... I got straight up robbed by Robolics last year for a nice amount of change. I was wanting some 200mg primo and after reading reviews I thought it would be all good. But, nope. Not one source gave two fucks about me getting ripped off and offered to help with anything but that was on a different board and we have some good people(sources). The funny thing is I'm still looking for legit primobolan. LOL!!! I'm like a dog that's been kicked too many times. Ole skiddish ass railroader!!![/quote

 

Robolics posted a special sale last night on a new board I just joined.

 

If Robolics is scamming people, then he needs to be removed from this other board immediately before even more people get scammed.

So everyone will know, my post to sounddesign or designbuilder (I forget his name, I am sorry) was completely in jest. It was not meant to be taken seriously! :)

I have read some of the replies to my post (especially gms) and it seems noone realizes I was completely goofing on the entire board!! :)

Sounddesign, I have no problem with you producing porn videos. What you do with your time is your business, it is none of my business. I would be being extremely hypocritical to criticize you or anyone else for being involved in guy-girl porn when I openly admitted that every once in awhile I do watch a girl-girl porn video. Why? Because I love girl-girl and I absolutely hate guy-girl. There's nothing I like any less than the sight of a naked man, a naked man is disgusting. (Am I homophobic? I might be, I dunno. I am not sure about it). I am just not into looking at a naked man, and that also includes you DesignBuilder. Girl-girl...it is two for the price of one. Why would anyone want to see a guy and a girl when 2 girls are twice as good?

Gms, lol I am surprised you fell for it! You know I am a total goofball. I am a dork Man! Please, in the future do not take anything I say seriously gms. Because I am a total dork and goofball.

Honestly, I think you are a total loser and a tool for doing porn, Designbuilt. I think you are a piece of shit. What does your Mom, Dad, Brothers and Sisters think of you when they find out their Son / Brother is doing porn? You are a narcissist. You think only of yourself. You do not even care about the tremendous amount of harm and embarrassment you are doing to your poor Mom and Dad.

I love my Mom and Dad so much, I love them with all of my heart. I could never hurt my Mom and Dad by being so selfish to act in porn. My Sister? My Sister is my best friend. My Sister would disown me if I acted in porn.

Methinks your family is white trailer park trash Designbuilt. They just don't give a shit. Thank God I have a good Family.

Oh, I am not a "closet homosexual", I am a very overt, loud and proud homosexual Designbuilt. I am always at the very front of the Gay Pride Parade.

Men should be outlawed from porn anyways. If I was Trump, I would issue an executive order banning guy-girl porn and making only girl-girl porn legal. The only porn any "normal" Man will watch is girl-girl. Only gay dudes watch guy-girl.

If I get extremely lucky, perhaps my (future) Wife might be into girls? :confused: She can let me watch? :confused:

Designbuilt, I would like to become a pornstar and star with you in your porn movies, but I am confined to a wheelchair from very advanced old age. I contracted Diabetes in my early 80’s and they had to amputate my left leg and half of my right leg. My penis is not fully functional, but occasionally, if stimulated well enough, I can get a moderately hard erection. I can ejaculate, just not on cue and not all the time (only about 5% of the time). Sometimes semen comes out. Other times, mayonnaise, salsa, mustard and ketchup.

I am about 3/4 of an inch fully erect so I am on the “small” side. But I am a very hard worker and I follow directions perfectly. Please give me a chance to star with you in some of your upcoming porn films. Thank you Designbuilt.

Koverby, apologies to you for coming across like I was belittling you for purchasing from a relatively new source. It was not my intention to be harsh to you or speak ill of you. I apologize for making you feel that way. Please accept my apology. I have known you for a long long time, you are a really good dude. I wish we could lift together sometime.

Five days ago I had a young girl at my gym.......in fact she is really pretty, I like her, long straight black hair and very skinny and tiny........if I was not already seeing someone she is definitely a girl I would ask out for coffee and dinner. It is so funny.....she was walking in the gym at about 3:15 AM (my gym is open 24 Hrs). She opened the door and I was standing about 10 feet away from the door as I was taking my hoodie off, then reaching into my gym bag and putting my tank top on. So I was shirtless in the gym at 3:15AM which I thought was cool because it was completely empty, there was noone in there. I looked up when I heard the door open and she was looking right at me, her mouth was wide open and she had a cup of coffee in her hands - it was a glass cup. She had been looking right at my body I guess - chest, abs, arms everything I guess and when I made eye contact with her she dropped her glass coffee cup. Her mouth was wide open and she dropped her coffee cup spilling her coffee.

I give about 95% of the credit to Defiant's gear, it is that good of gear. She would not have dropped her coffee cup, her mouth would not have been wide open, if it were not for Defiant's gear. So even if you guys are claiming Defiant is a scammer, it does not faze me in the least because I know 100% Defiant is not a scammer.

I helped her clean the spill up, don't worry. I am a gentleman. Got a broom and dustpan from the janitor's closet and picked up all the broken glass pieces. She was so embarrassed, I felt sorry for her. I gave her a pat on the back and told her ""You are crazy for lifting at 3:15 in the morning!!!"" Her face was bright red, she was so embarrassed.

I gave her Apex Predator's Phone number and told her he is single.

Wally and Koverby, you guys are speaking in riddles and tongues and I have no idea which source or what you guys are talking about. Evidently, among the (4) solid guys I mentioned, K, Caxxis, Defiant and Synergy, one of them is involved in some shady dealings.

I have no idea which board to look at, I wish some member would PM me the name of the board so I could go there and read for myself. It is no fun when multiple members know which source on AB is ""shady"", yet I have no idea which source it is.

I apologize again Koverby.

When did Defiant turn scammer? I received from D a couple months ago and am currently using multiple items from defiant. My results are extremely good and the gear is definitely not bunk, but I'll definitely post bloods as well as send a bottle off to Janoshik to have it tested. In your opinion defiant is a scammer and that is fine, I disagree with you.

I am not calling anyone dumb WallyD, get your facts straight. Never called Koverby dumb. Also, unlike you, I do not know what goes on on other boards, this is the only board I frequent.

Yes I pounded Patriot Labs and I still say he is a scammer who is going to scam a ton of people. There you go Wally, I do not like Patriot and I do not trust him.

Wally, you are very right, I am dumb. I will admit I am extremely dumb, because I have no idea who or what you are talking about. The battle tested vets I have mentioned have never done me or my friends wrong.

I do not praise Dictator as it has been sssssoooo long since I have used him.

At the time you ordered, wasn't Dictator essentially private and no longer openly sourcing on AB? There is a great thread over on Mesorx about why ordering from a private source is a really terrible idea....has to do with the very fact they are private means that people who are not receiving have no outlet to warn other customers they are not receiving / having problems etc...

The fact some of you guys were ordering from Dictator while he was in fact PRIVATE was not a good decision on yall's part. I have ordered from Dictator twice in the past, but both times were about 5 years ago or so and he was not private, but was active on the boards.

Anyways, I am not talking about Dictator. I am talking about ordering from 2 completely brand new sources versus ordering from one of the battle-tested vets we have here. The fact I have been scammed several times in the past makes me a little nervous and jumpy.

There are ways to minimize your risk from ordering overseas as well. No reason for anyone to not be willing to order from overseas IMO. Yes I have had multiple packs seized International in the past, but it is the safety precautions I took ahead of time that protected me.

My thoughts and prayers are genuinely with you guys, I hope you all do receive your complete order from Dictator.

I will say I never, ever, ever, ever thought Chavo would turn scammer. I am really stupid and naive. I actually considered him a friend.

I am not talking about Dictator Wally, I am talking about the (2) new sources we have now, Pharmavol and Mack Reincarnated as Greek God. Does anyone know exactly what happened to Mack? I know what I read back in (I think it was ???) November and December about Mack....but can anyone confirm anything that what Mack said is even true?? It left a very bad taste in my mouth that Mack is even trying to source when he did not even have the $450 required to pay his board fees. That is the potential for doom!! If a source like Mack has literally no savings in the bank, then he has no business sourcing as if anything negative suddenly comes up in his life (Medical Bills, needs a new car, Wife or Daughter becomes very sick, etc...) he is literally out of here and taking all of is customers' money with him as he has no money to fix anything that might go wrong in his business.

Guys like Synergy and Defiant have real life jobs and can take a financial hit without turning scammer as they have money in the bank. Mack.....the dude didn't even have $450 to cover his board fees. He is living from food stamp to food stamp.

And some members forget about SYnergy, Caxxis, K and Defiant.....and just wanna throw money at the new guy. Well, we (I) have done that before and that generally does not work out very well.

Stick to the tried and true sources Man. Especially when you are buying gear for your friends as Koverby said he is. Koverby has no clue what is in that bottle from Pharmavol or Greek God, it is wrong of him to give that gear to his friends.

Koverby, blood tests only test for Test. You know this Man, this is Freshmen Level AAS 101. You have to send off all other oils and tabs / caps to be GCMS tested for everything else. I am sorry, but your plan for getting bloods doesn't work Koverby. If you are giving this gear to your friends, highly recommend you send off the other oils and caps to be tested by Janoshik.

Just curious....why did you even order from a new guy? Why did you not order from Synergy, Alpha, Caxxis, Defiant?? Were you trying to save a couple bucks Koverby?? I tried to save a couple bucks and it came right back and bit me in the ass. Trying to save a couple bucks usually results in disaster.

""What about the source you mentioned as a safe bet that can’t keep his log ins straight & logs in as himself instead of his lab name. "" Wally, I have no idea what this means, I am sorry. I am an elderly Man in my early 90's, my mind is not very good these days.

Koverby, you seem to never, ever, under any circumstances want to use Synergy, Defiant , Alpha Labs or Caxxis...why? Whenever there is a brand new lab with no track record, no history, No Lab tests for any of their gear, for all you know they could be selling salad oil, same as Dynasty / Hi-Tech Labs you are always the first guy to jump on board and send the brand new, untested guy money? Why man? Why? Do you feel you are bulletproof and cannot get scammed by a brand new source? I wish I was lucky as you, recently every new source I have tried has scammed the living shit out of me. I am pretty sick of getting scammed by brand new sources.

Synergy, K, Defiant, Caxxis, those guys all have very long, proven track records. You seem allergic to all of the old-school sources Koverby.

By going with these brand new sources, you not only are potentially screwing yourself, but also potentially screwing your friends whom you are also buying your gear for. If you truly care about your friends Koverby, I'd think you'd want to stick to the tried and true sources like Synergy, K, Defiant, Caxxis......

At the very least, when you receive your gear from these brand new fly-by-night sources, Koverby, you absolutely need to send your gear off to be Lab Tested. You do not just want to give your friends some random shit-in-a-bottle that you have no idea if it's legit or not. You know what I am saying bro? You are taking a very real chance with these new sources. I took the same chances you took and I got fucked over and over and over again. My best friend also got fucked over and over and over again.

Never again for me. No more new sources for me until Synergy, Karius, Caxxis and Defiant retire. Until all (4) of those old-school sources retire, I have been fucked one too many times by the "brand new" sources and so I'll refrain from using them.

Caveat emptor.

At my Bingo Hall I play Bingo at every Friday and Saturday night, you have to be at least (75) to be admitted. Their ID policy is, if you look under (85), then they card you. I have not been carded in many years, so obviously I look much older than (85). Perhaps (685) ??:confused:

How us your lipid profile? Im lucky in the sense i dont get sides from tren. My blood pressure even on trt doses is around 130-140. On tren its a perfect 120. However my hdl takes a beating with tren more so than other compounds. Otherwise it would be a staple in my blasts

ETren, you do not get ANY sides, at all, from Tren? Really?? LOL I hate you Man, I hate you!! Tren kicks my A double S. But I love it still.

I am only (87) Apex. Discriminating against the elderly is a sin, you will burn for it.

Defiant, sounds good. :)

Its because your getting older

 

 

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But I am still really hot, Apex. Old Men can be sexy too.

I am currently running Defiant's Test Enan 300 at 1.5 cc's every 3 days (.5cc's/day / 1,050mg/week). That is it, nothing else. I stopped the Masteron I had been running. Feel good, look good and very very horny. I was running Defiant's Aromasin in the beginning at (1) 12.5mg capsule EOD but I had to completely quit the Aromasin as it was causing my estrogen levels to completely crash at even that relatively small dose of 12.5mg EOD. Defiant's Aromasin has always been good, it just seems to be stronger today than his Aromasin was in the past that I have always always used....or it could also be that my body, as I get older and older, has a less active form of the aromatase enzyme?? I dunno, hypothesis of mine??

I'll probably get some blood work done in the next couple weeks and post up the results of my blood work at 1.5cc's every 3 days / 1,050mg/week with no AI and no masteron.

Thank you Defiant as always for some wonderful wonderful gear. If you ever do decide to retire, please give me a couple weeks warning so I can at least purchase a (10) year supply of your gear.

True his gear is top notch for sure.

 

Running Sust atm, along with a few for of his goodies great guy great gear.

 

The Cialis is off the hook also!

 

 

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Apex, injecting Defiant's Sustanon Ass to Mouth is just wrong. Defiant has been around a very long time, he deserves more respect than that.

Have any customers of Joe / Karius tried out the Strength Pro 225 (150 Test Prop / 75 Tren Ace) ? Very curious to know peoples' results with this product. Thank you.

Would love to cross back over to the "dark side" and run Tren once again. 1.5cc's EOD = 5.25 cc's / week (788 mg/week Test Prop / 394 mg/week Tren Ace) sounds about right to me. Not looking forward to the insomnia, night sweats, anxiety and Tren cough, however.

Joe / Karius - I just noticed your boxes for the Strength Pro 225 are mislabeled as 250mg/cc. Just wanted to alert you to this.

Yeah, I do not remember either. But it's over and done with, and I don't even care about it. I'm much more concerned with protecting the members from getting scammed by Freedom. There is a 100.0000% chance he is a scammer. I am hoping beyond hope that noone orders anything from him.

How do I know he is 100% scammer? There are things we discuss through PM that not everyone is always privvy to. I'll just leave it at that.

I highly doubt you were banned for being critical of HGHpro. I read your posts and it was the name calling that was continued after a mod gave you multiple warnings to stop that most likely got you banned.

Please enlighten me. I genuinely do not know what you are referring to with "Name Calling", but I believe you Muscles96. You are a very honest person, you do not tell untruths. I consider you to be one of the guys I MOST admire and respect on AB. Sometimes my memory is a little foggy, sometimes I forget things. I'd appreciate it if you could jog my memory because I do not remember calling anyone any names with the exception of HGHPro dishonest, immoral, a scammer. Am I guilty of that "name calling" of HGHPro? Yes I certainly am.

When you are banned from the board for 10 days for being critical of HGHPro, it is not possible to have a conversation with the Admin of the Board. Further, I have no desire to have a conversation with the Mods or Admin. I am just a lowly lowly general member. A peon. They are upper level management. And I was definitely treated like a peon, and they definitely behaved as upper level management.

Further, the only thing I actually care about is keeping the members safe and preventing them from getting scammed. Upper level management can have the very worst opinion of me, doesn't matter to me. i hate scammers, it actually hurts me when I see a member get scammed.

Enough about Apex, dumbbellpress, TommyGuns, Muscles66.....the focus of this thread is and should stay squarely on Freedom. We are letting Freedom off the hook if we continue down this road of talk. So let's stop right now and shift the conversation back to Freedom.

Freedom is the subject of this thread. Let's stay focused.

So has Freedom scammed anyone? Or are you omniscient or something? I've known IM who mods here for well over a decade and know that there isn't anyone else in the community that is more diligent in trying to protect the community from scammers. I'd be shocked if he'd let Freedom be here if there was any evidence of him/her scamming anybody.

 

Or are you also tired of Navy Chief and IM who don't have any clue of what is going on? Dude, if you don't have any evidence of Freedom scamming anyone, you kinda look like a douche... just saying.

(Face Palm)

By the way, if you have only known IM for 10 years, that means I have known him much longer than you have. His actions recently have left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I am disappointed in him because up until this point, I have always considered him to be an objective, fair, unbiased Moderator. My opinion of him recently has changed. If he wants to ban me permanently for saying this, then I have no problem with that. It shows I am a bigger Man than him. It is the unfair, biased Mods who are typically the ones who hand out many bans, such as how when he banned me for 10 days for voicing my concerns and distaste for many of the things HGHPro was doing. I was very vocal in my criticism of HGHPro, and it got me banned for 10 days. Whatever dude.

You calling me a "douche"...I will take the high road and leave that one alone. The fact you have (42) posts in (12) years....I do not place a huge premium on your opinion of me Tommy Guns. I do not consider you a valuable contributor to this board. But surely you can have any opinion of me you want.

Apex, the point of my post was not to embarrass or humiliate or condemn Gage. If that is what you gleaned from reading my post, then you completely misinterpreted my post. I have known Gage for a very long time. Gage is a good Man, a good human being, good Father who has openly talked about his love for his Son several times on the boards over the years. I always admire and respect good Dads, as I hope to become one someday soon myself. I was simply trying to alert him to what myself and others have noticed him doing repeatedly, and that is jumping into threads without being armed with all the facts or posts in that thread. I hope gage can take my post as constructive criticism and try to improve in that area I mentioned to him.

Gage, you have a very bad habit of jumping into threads and posting in them when you have only ready 3, 4, maybe 5% of the thread. Quite often you are ill-informed, not educated on the particular topic at hand. You have not done your due diligence by reading the thread in its entirety. This a bad quality of yours Gage. I have had a couple members PM me about you, telling me how annoying it is for them to have you repeatedly jump into threads, unprepared for discussing them. This thread is just another example of how....when a thread is very long, sometimes extremely long, perhaps 40, 50, 60 pages long.........you jump into a thread and make a blind post, completely unread and uneducated on the subject matter you are posting about.

To me that is simply being lazy. When I read many of your posts, you come across as lazy to me. We all have time constraints. We all are busy in life, Gage. Yet, the vast majority of guys, before they comment in a thread, have done their due diligence and have taken adequate time to read every page and every post in a thread so that their post is not done in a completely "blind" manner.

Case in point, your post right now ""Read between the lines what?"" It is obvious you have not read this thread in its entirety nor the other Freedom thread in its entirety. If you had, you would not be asking this question. It is blatantly obvious to nearly every member active in this thread (save a few who like you, Gage, probably have not read it in its entirety) there are multiple things about Freedom that are extremely shady and should set off big-time warning alarm bells to every member who has years of experience in placing orders with internet sources. Further, Freedom has deleted many of his own posts in which he said extremely shady things and was subsequently called out on his shadiness by multiple members. Not only did Freedom delete his own extremely shady posts, but Freedom has also deleted many of the posts from other members containing criticisms of his extremely shady posts.

I have never before seen such a dishonest, unethical, shady source as Freedom. This guy makes every warning alarm go off in my brain. Freedom has also set off massive warning alarms in the heads of many other members who have posted in this thread. You are a long-time vet on this board, Gage. You should be able to pick up these warning signs instantly like all the rest of us do. Yet, you are here defending Freedom and also essentially asking ApexPredator the question ""Read between the lines what?"" And there is a definite reason for your lack of knowledge on the matter at hand.....one more time.....you have not done your due diligence by reading both Freedom threads in their entirety.

I ask you politely Gage, please stop posting in threads where you have no clue what is going on. It is getting tiresome not only to me, but a couple other members who sent me PM's concerning you. Thank you Gage.