hunterboy

i ran tren for 12 wks 100 mg ED last summer, i'm no youngster either 40, years old. tren really seems to kick in hard after week 8 at least for me. i ran it with test, eq, and winny the last 4 wks. i had a complete physical 2 mos. after pct, & everything was normal except test levels were low, borderline low, the cycle shut me down hard, but i kept most of the mucsle, only losing 10 lbs. of 25 gained. i personly like longer cycles with longer recovery peroids. 2, 3 month cycles per year, thats it.

The goverment just removed the only OTC product that did anything at all. EPHEDRA , maybe creatine works slightly, go with the real thing after you have youre research done, 5 years or so training under youre belt & are ready to move to the next level.

Originally posted by slobberknocker

I think dbol is your best bet. How long are you going to run the t3/clen?

 

10 mg. a day, take as soon as you wake up in the A.M. run the clen 2 wks on 2 wks off, and taper the t3 up then down. i've also used anavar, but good anavar is not cheap & i ran it at 25 mg per day. just my 2cc

Originally posted by geodesic44

I wouldn't necessarily take "any" nolva on a eod or ed basis. a little estrogen's not a bad thing.

 

i can usaully run heavy androgens for 5 to 6 weeks before nips start to become sensative, then i'll take only 10 mg a day and work up if needed. nolva will inhibit some growth so thats why everyone says make sure you have it on hand if nips start to get sensative, the begining of gyno

just my 2cc

i,m no doctor either,i just play one on various boards. kidding aside, it sounds like a sinus infection, ive gotton them a few times & without taking anti-biotics it won't go away.

i've heard of people trying it, but if you do some research youll find very little of the trenbolan acetate will get into the blood stream taken orally. like fleem said, get a conversion kit, convert to injectable. its easy, cheap & works well

http://www.thestimulantpeople.com click under ephedra, or use the commercial tabs. i always run my own ECA's 25 mg ephedra, 2 asprin, & a cup of coffee :)

Go to W.U. with cash to fund youre account. a couple of e-mails & $ will be transferd. i personally like it better than sending cash in a birthday card.

i don't see it necessary for you to run hcg during cycle either. save it and start it at the end of youre cycle. use nolva, only if gyno symtoms start, during youre cycle. read big biceps sticky about pct. it works for me & others. i ran the same cycle for my first but i also added 400 mg deca per week. i grew like crazy.

just my 2cc good luck bro

where can you order it from ? anybody ?

go to http://www.basskiller.com theres a a couple of threads that have the lists of how many drops = how much. alot of other good info also.

i have some of their liquid clen, & T-3, i'm starting it in 2 wks, post cycle, i'll post results, but i also bought their liquid cilias, it works very well. just ask my girlfriend :D

Originally posted by rockwilder

WHY? test only gets one star for retaining gains on the profile chart and there are many other aas that build quality muscle with less sides and retainable gains. yeah it gets 4 stars for gaining and building and so does anadrol. i'm not saying don't use test but i don'tj think its "A MUST" in every cycle. deca, eq, masteron, andriol, and primo are all better for retaining gains and building quality muscle. i wonder if anyone has tried a cycle with

deca

equipoise

masteron and/or winny

oh, i know why deca and e

 

WHY TEST? Do a cycle of deca only or maybe tren only, say goodby to youre sex life, not mention the way youll be dragging youre ass. i did a cycle of deca, d-bol, test, and about 4 wks in i relized the test was bunk. it was rough until i manged to get my hands on some test. TEST IS BEST..... period

EXCELLANT READ, NOT BIASED LIKE MOST AAS ARTICLES

Originally posted by hitmeoff

This is my personal all time favorite post cycle regimine:

 

HCG

2 weeks before end of Cycle: 1500IUs 3 times a week

Last week of cycle: 1500Ius 3 times a week

First Week Post-Cycle: 1500IUs 2 times a week

 

Nolva:

Days 1-28: 20mg ED

 

CLomid:

Day 1: 300mg

Days 2-14: 100mg ED

Days 15-28: 50mg ED

 

Now let me explain somehting here. You are using long acting esters, so OFFICIALLY the end of your cycle is about 2-3 weeks after your last shot. So for example, if you last shot was sunday of Week 10, then your cycle officially ENDS the end of Week 12. Get it?

 

So you would start the HCG regimine the week AFTER you shoot your last shot of Cyp and Deca and begin Nolva and Clomid 2 weeks after that.

 

Its been said before, but that regime works very well for me also. in terms of how i feel, and the mucsle i retain.

Don't take the first week off, but it depends on what youre coming off of. IE; long esters, like test enth, will be in youre system 3 to 4 wks so i keep working hard, until clomid. if you used short acting stuff,IE:prop,susp. tren,etc. then i work as hard as my body tells me. you won't be able to work out with the same intensity as when on, but i try to keep working at it keeping diet in check. good luck,, also a post cycle recovery, with hcg,clomid, nolva will help a great deal

anybody know whats going on with A-madness, is the sight down?

i just got some QV, BOLD & PROP, about 2 wks ago. the bold had the dog on it , the prop did not. both are good. the prop is just an older batch. as for holograms,,mine leave the slits, been on a qv cycle for 7 wks now. the stuff is good to go :D

i've gotton bad stuff twice. it really sucks but by 4 weeks in you should know wether its good or not. anyway i did some omnas last year no pain, or very little, good stuff they had paper label on them from jelfa i think. doing qv prop right now,, talk about pain :(

doing QV prop, & EQ right now, PROP HURTS LIKE A MOFO, cutting it helps i use eq, also running homebrew fina, but basicly after 6 wks i'm used to it. just rotate injection sights. i run glutes, quads , delts with ED shots. delts do hurt worst can't wait to throw my winny in with it next wk. :D

i always use boiling water(removed from the heat) when disolving pellets, pellets must be completly disolved, it ussally takes 1 hour. then i use heat again after i mix oil in with it. only 5 maybe 10 mins. ii'll have white gung on the bottom. i use whatman filter from there. i've made four, four gram kits this way this year alone, for freinds & myself. its kick ass stuff. i never use a coffe filter. i've used differant kits from differant people, and gotton varying color, from golden yellow to rust colored. animals kits seem to work best, with getpinz a close 2nd. fina kits .com are the worst. IMO

i could be wrong,,but, i thought you needed so much BA, &BB to hold the tren, or whatever steroid ,in soulition, when i make higher dose tren i use less oil. so use enough ba & bb for a 4 gram kit with the oil from a 2 gram kit. check it out on http://www.basskiller.com good steroid making info.

IMO, thats the best bulk cycle there is. i ran 500mg test, 400 mg deca, with 40 mg d-bol ed. last winter. and put on 25lbs. i managed to keep 15 of it so you should reach youre goal. also keep youre protien to 300-400 grams ed. good luck

BWI, is a good bro, i've used him many times. i liked him better a few years ago though when he was smaller. expect to wait at least 4 wks (at best) but you will get youre order, and you will get quality legit gear. P.S. real yellow top decas are by far the best deca you can get IMO.

4 weeks is to short to run tren, ya its strong, but it really kicks in in wk 5-6, i'm running it right now for a 10 wk, with test & EQ. real good cycle, lean and strong as hell. 4 wks in :D