hunterboy

Ditto, like eveyone said , with 750mg test a wk, youll be fine, i've run tren with no test, and it killed my sex drive. the only reason was i got some fake test and didn't relize it until i was about 3 wks into the cycle

i'm doing QV prop, 100mg ED, QV, EQ, 600mg wk, with 75mg fina ed, with 40mg d-bol, ed wks1-4. i was questioning the legitimacy of the QV gear, but i was running myself ragged with a busy work schedule, which i've rectified, finally getting enough sleep and now its really kicking in good. staying lean and hard, and strong as shit. good stuff, i can't wait till the eq kicks in. :D

is that thread still going on animals sight? that has to be a record or something. i personlly don't see a huge difference between 500 & 750 wk. i see a difference going from 500 to 1000 though.

i've had the same problam while on cycles,wierd nightmares sometimes, violent its great when i'm on tren nightmares and night sweats :eek:

i was always under the impression also , that you should not use more than 5000 iu of hcg post cycle, and it is better to use it mid cycle while on. Well my last cycle of deca, test ,d-bol i used BIGBI'S post cycle advice of 2500 iu every 4 days, for 4X = 20,000 iu ,with clomid, and nolva fowllowing. i gained 20LBS on the cycle, kept 15lbs of it. i'm almost 12 wks out of the cycle, WITH NO BRIDGE WHATSOEVER, libido, is good, strength and size is acceptable. the point is i will follow that post cycle regime from know on.

cycle looks good to me bro, i'm going to run an eq, test, fina last 5 wks cycle next month. about post cycle recovery: I followed bigbi's suggestion EXACTLY for a winter deca, test, d-bol cycle, and had the best recovery i ever had on any cycle. i went from 200 lbs to 220 lbs on cycle, i'm 8 wks out right now and maintaining 215 lbs strength is ok also. i'm also cutting with clen which i started after clomid ended, so that may be helping maintain strength & weight

if you run deca, don't start clomid until 3 weeks after last shot, test enth, or cyp, 2wks. check a sticky i think theres one that lists when to start post cycle recovery for every steroid.

btw i run clomid 300mg day 1

100mg day 2-14

50mg day 14-28

Excellant post, info is starting to reach these boards about the use of hcg, clomid & nolva, as post cycle recovery. i read apost about a similiar study, where subjects were given 2500 iu hcg, every 4 days, repeat 4 times, with clomid and nolva on follow up. anyway i'm in post cycle right now, did the 2500 iu hcg every 4 days, repeated for 4X. started clomid at 300 mg day 1, 200,day 2, 100 mg day 2-14, 50 mg ed 14-30, with 20 mg nolva ed from 4 weeks into cycle, till i'm done post cycle. i'm going to get tests done on test, and LH,when i'm 12 weeks out of cycle, see were i am. let you know how it goes i'm only in wk 1 of clomid

i see they have a new 50 mg winny pill, has anyone tried them. i might like to try them this summer.

i don't know bro, i'd be checking the quality of the gear youre getting. if you did 400 mg wk deca, 500 sus, d-bol, and testo, for 8 weeks and you didn't gain any weight, you weren't using steroids. with that much gear you could lay around and put on weight. theres been studies where guys were put on say 600mgs of test a week with no exercise, and they increased mucsle mass. as a comparison, my first cycle was sus,500wk. deca 400wk. thats it, for 8 weeks i put on 40lbs. i haven't matched it since. SOMETHINGS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE :confused:

i ran tren, 75mg ed, pyrimided up to 150mg ed, and test enth at 750 wk again pyrimided. with winny 50 mg ed ,the last 4weeks, of 12 week cycle. Do not pyrimid, its out-dated info i got the gym. anyway, as i look at pics of me from last summer i was holding to much water. i think it had to be the test enth. i was strong as hell though and put on 25 lbs at my peak. i'm running qv test prop, with a cycle this summer. my point is,, qv prop is cheap, i hope i draw less water

A straight ECA stack

http://www.thestimulantpeople.com they have cheapest 25 mg ephedrine i've seen, plus other OTC supplaments

i agree with yz, but think hes way to young also, 25 i think is the age anyone should even start thinking about aas use. you need a good 5 years of training, proper diet, and maturety. never mind the physical stuff.

just my 2 cc

interesting artical slacker, the last paragraph sums it up well. proper training, diet, and rest. when to start? when youre fully developed, and have some years of serious training behind you.

me being the ripe old age of 40, i really benifit from additional hormone replacement therapy. :D

i would love to try GH, and may soon, 2 ius 5 days on /2 off, is that right. thats not alot, i might even be able to afford it. i wouldn,t do it unless i could run it for at least 3mos. what brand are you using hitmeoff if you don't me asking?

let me tell you kids something, i'm 40, i ran winny last summer, at the end of a tren & test cycle, i FUckin loved the results, hard and ripped. but joint pain in one shoulder was un-bearable. i'm a massicist though becuase i'm running winny the last 4 wks of a eq,tren,test cycle. i just respond to good to the stuff. i do use zambons though, if that makes a differance ????

i never had a mixing problem with the pregnyl hcg i use. i shoot it through a 25 ga. needle also. read BigBiceps post cycle recovery,sticky, good hcg info

get a script from youre doctor, for test. other than that, you may need a heavy dose of hcg, read bigbiceps thread "post cycle recovery",,,,either way consult another physician to see if theres a way to correct the problem naturally. by natural i mean no test shots to bring levels up.

HIT, high intensity training, do a search under "mike metzler" i think thats how its spelled. its a training method where you train a body hard and intense, but not a lot of sets, some only do 1 set , with warm up sets. but a big part of HIT is REST,, no more than 1 body part per week. good advice for anybody building mucsle

i am 5'10' 220 lbs, about 8 % BF> i'd like to put on maybe 10lbs and harden up for summer .I'm putting together a spring cut cycle. i was thinking of running,EQ 1-10 400 mg wk

test prop 1-10 500 mg wk ,,shot 5 x wk

fina 75 mg ed wk 5-10

winny 50 mg ed wk 5-10

do you think i should run the eq, or run fina throughout, i've never used eq, and would like to try it . i ran test, fina for 10 weeks last summer & ran winny for the last 20 days. i got great results. i did run test ethn. at about 750 mg wk and put on more water than i wanted. but i cut up nice when the winny kicked in. thats why i want to run it longer, if my joints can handel it. i may also throw in anavar at 25 mg ed for wks 1-4 if i can afford it. its turning into a big cycle. all my previous cycles have been 3 aas, total. i just finished test, deca, d-bol, it didn't work out as exactly planned but put on 20 lbs.

what BULLZ said it depends on youre goals. size ,,,,,,,, go with d-bol, nothing will rip you like fina & winny, with strength, to boot

i'd run fina 75-100 mg ED for at least 8 weeks no more than 12, i guess depending on youre past experiance. i ran it with test enth, & winny at the end of the cycle. for 10 weeks i gained 25lbs of rock hard mucsle. i just did a winter bulk cycle of deca, test ,d-bols and didn,t even gain 25 lbs.

FINA ROCKS

i've been surfing around the internet for about 3 years and have some pretty good sources, at some pretty cheap prices, i'm older so some of my not so computor literate gym partners have a hard time beleiving how easy it is to get roids, on line, i think its the balls, fuck the goverment they don't give a shit about what people do. its all about $$$$ and there not getting there cut,,,,,FUCKEM

thanks for the site mike57, good deal on ephedra, its been getting hard to find on the east coast too, i have one place left that sells VASLPRO 25 mg for 19.95 for 60 tabs. i used to buy those same bottles for 5.95 3 years ago

i can't remember where i saw it, but i read recently that ibuprofin will inhibit mucsle growth at large doses. espeically if taken right after a workout. it may have been on A madness, if i find it, i'll post it.