qbert

Yes sir 400 prop an 500 enanthate ... What's a better brand of gh then? I saw good reviews on thanktropins(think thats the name) i think there is more bullshit gh then real..I had a brand called nipertropin an there is. No way it's gh.. Prob insulin! But it is my first time using it

A "better brand of gh" would be pharm grade bro. If you are like the majority of guys than this is way out of your price range (cost vs. benefit). I would trust any of the sources on this board for good gh, just pick one that you feel comfortable with and go for it. If there is ever any concern you can always have some blood work done, but I agree with your statement that there is more bullshit gh than real. Seeing the proof all of the boards lately.

Agree, I have run it as high as 800mg EW and did not notice that much more of a difference than running it at 600mg EW. Best advice, Start at 400mg and work your way up if you are not happy, but I find 400-600mg to be the sweet spot the same as other members have posted.

^^^Yep. learned that lesson that hard way. Well, not really. It just meant that I had to cruise for longer than expected since they want to recheck levels. Been using these Pfizer Depo's 1ml vials and I must say I don't notice a fucking difference other than the price! I'll hit my deductible on the next fill, which will bring my cost basis back down to $10 for the brand. Not bad. That's like $2.5 per shot (4 vials/month). Now it costs $25 per 1ml vial. The pharmacy cost for the brand makes my asshole phucker. Problem is they are out of the generic (Paddock) 1ml vials. Sandoz and Watson haven't yet figured out that insurance won't pay for the 10ml vials anymore.

JA, insurance won't pay for Watson or Sandoz 10ml vials anymore? Could you please explain?

Good old tren cough. I have been on all 4's coughing uncontrollably for what seems like minutes while making all sorts of promises to my self trying to get just one solid breath. Mostly promises like "I will never use this shit again if I can just breathe one more time", then in passes and I somehow convince myself that it wasn't that bad.

In my humble opinion I feel tried and trusted source has the best interests of their clients. Whether it is GD, WU, MG, or bank wire whatever is the safest best option is fine by me. Again, this applies to tried/trusted guys, not everyone. Reality is, there are always chances associated and maybe some methods would appear safer than others (I don't know) but at the end of the day, there is always risks. Just my .02.

Nice job bro! Looking solid.

His blues are good, my igf levels were 556 and those readings are 24 hrs after last shot. Not sure how reliable igf readings are.

That's awesome bro, thanks for posting those results. HK is certainly as solid as they come. No worries there.

I think you're right. It all depends on where you get them from. Does Hk still sell them or is the factory still closed down from the bust.

HK is not carrying them right now bro. Confirmed this as of 2 days ago. Just rips and blues.

I have heard only good reviews on Ansomone. It is considered pharmaceutical grade and the distributor in China will not sell to the US (trust me I know). I think I have only heard 1 example of it being faked and I do not know if that was a legit finding or not. I would say if you can get your hands on it then go for it. Too many inconsistencies today with generic Chinese IMO, no QA whatsoever. I believe this also to be the reason why some guys get good readings on their GH serum tests and other do not. For me personally, if I am going to drop a substantial amount of money I want to make sure it works. Not check my levels and then the next batch it is significantly lower. Don't believe me then read some of the boards lately.

I am not super knowledgeable in this topic so I will let someone else answer this for you, but I am pretty sure you probably want to run more than 2iu's the day of your test unless you are just trying to to see if you get a spike in IGF-1.

I don't know about your particular vials, but some sources are filling their vials with nitrogen which as no vacuum. Get some blood work done and see if you have any doubts.

Qbert, you ever run primo and masteron together? I was contemplating starting a test, tren, primo, masteron cycle to bring my bodyfat from 12% to 7% for the summer. Thoughts?

I have not bro, but I will be running primo with winstrol suspension soon. I am excited about this one. :) I think yours is a powerful stack that should yield great results if diet, cardio, and training are in place, but I don't know your stats, training expereince, or AAS experience either. Tren can bite you in the ass if you have never run it before. You do not need to be 7% bf to run primo, but I would recommend single digits 9% or less for optimal results. I think if you are 12% right now and you bust your ass in the gym and watch would you eat you could get down to single digits. 7% that I don't know, but I like the way you think.

How much primo do you use?

Depends what I'm doing. If I am am trying to shred I go minimum 600mg EW with great results, but I know I am getting good primo so this works. If I am trying to maintain "my cuts" through the winter or so, I use 400mg EW. I have stayed on primo year round before and I certainly don't recommend this, but my blood work showed me this was not a problem and I felt comfortable doing it at my level of experience. I stay lean all year round and don't go through a "winter bulk" as some people do. I have also heard of some using as low as 400mg EW of Schering and more than happy with the results. I believe if you have good quality primo, you don't need to use 1000mg EW or more like some people claim. Either there shit is weak, they need to lose some weight, or it isn't primo. JMO

why you like primo better, i see alot of people say that

Primo seems to give my body more of a "finished" look. It is hard to explain. It's like one day I just looked in the mirror and was like "holy shit". With primo it is a marathon not a sprint, but patience is a virtue and if you are in the single digits and run enough of it I can't imagine why you wouldn't be happy. I think most people who hate on primo are a. not in the single digits b. not using enough or running it long enough c. impatient and expect result as quickly as dbol or d. got screwed and have something besides primo from their source. Don't get me wrong, I like masteron too, I just prefer primo. These are my experiences and opinions only, but hope it helps either way.

I haven't used the enanthate version so I can't comment on that, but I have used the proprionate version and can tell you that I was hard as a rock. I remember reaching back to scratch my back one day and my traps and upper back felt like it was made of granite. I like masteron, but I like primo better.

Im a big fan of Elitropin. And I have run many different brands. And I have pics to back up my claims that they work exteremely well plus their is documented blood work on them. Im sorry but the GH market is a RIP OFF. If you knew how cheap you really can get good GH for you would shit. I know where alot of guys get their GH and throw on their own labels now it's a "NEW BRAND" and they put a crazy price markup on it. Don't ask me where to get the GH because I have forgotten. But I can almost guarantee you are paying WAY to much for what you are getting.

 

If you have the cash buy 10 kits plus and the GH will even be that much cheaper. A standard good blue top. Less than 3 digits.

 

Good luck!

Well said Bowtech. I have always had my doubts and suspected something like this and actually still do.

Qbert, thanks bro. I used their var tabs during last summer and the shit was awesome so I hear ya.

 

BRUCE LEROY!!!! your Shogun avatar brings back memories as I haven''t seen that movie in forever.

Who's the master?.............SHONUFF!

I loved Bman's var bro. Keep us posted on your results. Looks like you got a good combination there.

Which tren from D are you using bro?

It's already on its way my man.

 

What other products were you running with it?

 

I'll be using about 440mg(3.5cc) Daman Primo, 100mg Strango/defiant/thedictator Var ED, 400mg Strango Tren, 400mg thedictator Masteron when I start the halo in 6 weeks or so. I'm upping the tren & mast too 300 next week, and adding var in about 15 days.

This was about 1-2 years ago so my memory is not that great, but I do believe I was running testosterone cypionate (Watson) around 500mg EW, Bman anavar maybe around 60-80mg EW, and primo at 600mg EW. Next up is primo/parabalon compliments of Daman and possibly an oral maybe winny with some test. Could change by tomorrow though. Good luck bro, you are going to be happy with Bman's halo. Please keep everyone updated on your progress.

Let me assist you! I have used B's halo and that shit was nasty. Very potent stuff. I ran it at 20mg ED for about 6 weeks and got strong and shredded. My bf% was low to begin with and I feel this is a necessity with this compound for optimal results. I did try and bump up the dosage to 30mg ED and could not handle the aggression. I was pissed at times with no catalyst whatsoever. Normally mellow person, but everyone will react differently. I loved the results and would use his halo in a second if I gave it another run. Hope this helps bro and good luck if you decide to pull the trigger.

I would suggest that both of you have doctors who know what your true intentions are and are being a bit accomodating to you. ;)

Agreed. "As someone who is currently on trt through a licensed physician" as well, my dosages never even come close to 250mg EW. That is not a "TRT" dose IMHO. Sounds more like an HRT clinic than an endo.

Good to hear. I am waiting to start this myself and will post feedback as well. Expecting killer results.

Mixing is where it's at. Cuts down on injections for sure. No problem bro, mix away.

Thanks for all the replies guys. Feeling better every day and stronger too. Think I am going to start with light weights and cardio until I am back at full strength. Still a little discomfort and it is a bitch when I sneeze or laugh really hard.