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I had the same response when I first started HGH. At the time I started it was jins, straight from the factory. I held MASS amounts of water, felt like I could fall asleep anywhere, it was crazy. But it wore off. Then I switched to Serostim and stayed on that for 6 years. My final conclusion, FOR ME, HGH is a waste of money for anything other than injury rehab and keeping gains.

I've been using gh for almost 10 years. Started with the brown tops. Use several brands. Never have I had such an adverse reaction as I had from Provider's rips.

I do but they all show my face,that guy beat me,he was definately more shredded,we were very similar in body style and i can get that ripped over the winter,the 2nd place guy was just simply massive,240 easy, he definately beat me as well,but i took out another guy that was about 230lbs and that made my show,it was close as they had us switch places and do full mandatorys 3xs,i was ready to fall over,people have no clue what it takes out of you standing there holding poses as hard as you can,it hurts,especially at my age,but i placed exactly where i shoulda

Just blot out your face while in Windows edit. If you don't know how to do it we can all walk you through it. Simple as hell.

BTW, did you ever hop on the hgh band wagon. If so, how much and what brand are you using?

If it wasnt for you i woulda never competed MU,and you know that,i have 2 2nd place and a 3rd place trophy on my shelf because of you,and you know what bro it made all these years of killing my self worth it.I will be back next year shooting for the liteweight Masters Nationals,thats it for me,one last winter of as much as my body will take because i have to bring it up a notch.Mu my legs grew tremedously with your advice this year,i know what has to be done,and im gonna give it my all to make top 5,i dont need to win,not at all,i just wanna hold my own,and then im happy,thanx MU youve been a great friend and a great motivator for me

Have any more pics from the show? I really don' think the guy next to you was in better condition. You look a bit dryer.

First let me give you the tired old compliment "you look good FOR YOUR AGE"

lol, how many 25 yr olds can come close to your type of condiitoning. And I'm not talking your once every year or so contest shape but your everyday condition. I've always been impressed over the years on how you are able to maintain such great shape year round. To me that's more important unless your a pro where it only matter how you look on one specific weekend. Being in great pussy pulling shape year round then just a bloated blob most of the year. And I dont know what that fella is talking about. ONe of the first things that caught my eye was how developed your calves are and hams are clearly visible and separated. Only a front shot can give a fairer evaluation ofyour quads which I've seen before and its more than adequate.

Great job as always, my friend. Are you still with that young hot piece of A? Nobody believes you'd be pulling that if it wasn't for your great shape and condition.

Bro, I'm not trying to argue with you, there is nothing to argue about. You must realize not everyone ordering is ordering growth and that is to what I was referring and it isn't offered locally. Regardless, this thread has said plenty and I have no interest in a back in forth dialog of circular motion. My only wish and reason to post was for people to stay informed and stay safe. Good day.

Exactly, only domstc option for gh not for other products.

I think a lot of the people who are chiming in on Pep haven't actually dealt(traded) with him. He doesn't treat his customers like shit,only people that ask dumb questions openly on boards.

 

As far as shipping. On the west coast I haven't had an issue.

 

As far leaving OLM. He warned people he was leaving. He wasn't just kicked off out of no where(at least under the Superman line). Somone asked why he didn't offer services on many other boards,considering the outstanding responses he received,he said he didn't need to,he's way too busy as is.

Wrong. All of us have dealt with him. He's great when things go as planned but when there's trouble there's trouble. And things started to go down hill when I asked the stupid qustion about the seizure which he insisted wouldn't happen and didn't happen until I sent pics of customs letter. It still didn't go smoothly after that but eventually worked out. But like I said before, he's top of the top and has earned the right to be a dick. always top notch products and I've used him, and will continue to use him, since the seizure.

i drink 3-4 shakes a day.....benifiber gets scooped into all of them...

 

i had a ex-girlfriend always rambling on about how great fiber was..so i started adding it to all my shakes to shut the bitch up.......i really hate to say it but my ex pain in the ass was right....been supplementing it ever since then

I've beena big believer in fiber for years. I have a scoop of that psyllium husk about 4 times a day. I think thats around 20 grams right there not counting food.

What kind of shakes do you drink? Your own concoction or some brand. I like the Up Your Mass for a meal replacement. Hardly any sugar (I think it's like 2 grams), super high in fiber, I think it's the ideal macro nutrient profile, and taste great.

look my avitar picture im on rips when taking taht picture i def am not bloated i was eating clean doin my cardio an on supps but i only talk to hk i def gain a few lbs in water but nothing that makes me bloated. again this is just my opinion but im tryin to keep hk name good for the other guy i have never used or thought of using so i have no comment on his cause i have no way to comment on it.

just my 2cents guys

No worry about sticking up for Homer. Never ever have I heard anything bad about him. Ever. Not only a pro but a class act and treats everyone with respect and courtesy. I wish I could say the same for Nordic. Never been disappointed with his gh and think his red tops are about as close to pharm grade as Chinese generic is going to get. He's just not exactly a people person. I had a bad experience with Provider. Poor communication, slow as hell, came across as impatient and arrogant and just got a bad vibe off of him. Guys like Nordic, Homer, Ret (there's a few others) have been in the game so long and have proven themselves time and time again that they have earned the right to be a dick and have addicts in this cult kiss their ass if they want to. Not Provider. Not even close.

If you don't get your rips from HK, then i am not sure i would trust them at all. I gained a little water weight on them, but nothing terrible at all. I felt great on rips, and would recommend them to anyone, but ONLY the ones from HK

I suspect you might be right. HK has been in the game a long time and is a real pro. I trust him 100% and he doesn't deal with balonie. His hyges were gold.

Who are you guys getting your rips from? I don't get that much bloat at all, maybe a few lbs. I get mine from H.

Mine was from Provider and I did not like dealing with him at all. But Homer has a steep min and I wanted to just try out three kits. I grinded it out for 2 kits at 4iu/day before I decided to call it quits. I usually do 5iu but wanted to see how I reacted to it first. As I mentioned before, I've used a lot of different brands but never have I had a reaction like this before. Makes me wonder what the hell is in it. Yah, I guess I could run it for a year and force my body to adapt to it OR I could just gowith the NDs or Tanks for cheaper or about the same price and not deal with it. I just wonder what the hell is in it that causes the bloat. I mean, I've been on a gram of test and 75mg dbol/day with no ae or ai and never did I get the moon face I got from the Rips. People were looking at me and saying WTF?

I was thinking the same damn thing. This dude definitely is a fan of that CIS show. All I want to know is where can you pick up a pack where there's no cameras unless it's a residence which I'm sure isn't yours so that would mean you are putting others at risk. I remember that incident where Shawn Ray had shit delivered to his mom.[/quote]

I believe it was colemen.

 

You sure about this? How could Coleman remain a cop if that happened to him?

All problems seems to be on the west coast.

what about that guy from Chicago?

Having tried the red tops and NDs I've been really wanting to give the novos a try. If it wasn't for all the recent seizures I've been hearing about, including mine a few months ago, I'd put in an order yesterday.

West Coast?

For me, yes. As well as two of my friends. One was from Superman products and the other were for NDs. I believe it was all at Long Beach.

yep that is correct!

Lets know how it goes trying to rectify the matter. It was a major pain in the ass for me when I got my red tops seized. I only go on a couple of boards but those out there that are member of many it might be to everyone's interest to determine how serious this siezure issue (both in Chinese customs and elsewhere) is with Pep. This is a small baord without a ton of traffic yet there already has been several reported cases here. Things seem to be changing yet again for the worse. Pep is gong to have make some changes and up his game. Of course, that's easy for me to say as I don't know what else he can do otehr than bribe the right people.

:mad: Well just got the nice letter from the FDA stating that the article appears to be a new drug without an approval...

Was this the pack from Pep?

Warhead your hardcore man, no licking envelopes, wow, if they care about your DNA, your screwed, they are after you for murder not a small order of gear. Better safe then sorry though.

I was thinking the same damn thing. This dude definitely is a fan of that CIS show. All I want to know is where can you pick up a pack where there's no cameras unless it's a residence which I'm sure isn't yours so that would mean you are putting others at risk. I remember that incident where Shawn Ray had shit delivered to his mom.

Rips are by far best i've used for the money, I have to bump them

Who did you get yours from? And to the other poster the Rips, more than any otehr gh, does make you sleep better. IN fact it makes you sleepy all the time. At least it did for me.

Yes sir they do. I've never really heard of them having problems getting out of China customs though.

Yes, it seems this is happening more and more. The thing I don't understand is why? China doesn't give a crap about the US or any other country's laws. They care about money. Why should they care if their country is sending out hormones, viagra or fake name brand jeans. As long as the ca-ching is coming into their country.

And Nordic better start stepping up his game. I'm hearing probs left and right with him. Maybe he pissed off the wrong people. He's a pretty arrogant dude and think he's untouchable. In fact, I always though he paid off enough of the right people to have special priviledges. During that whole HGH crack down that got rid of Kigtropins and every other crack down they have had there, it always seems that Nordic comes out unscathed. I didn't think it was luck or coincidence.

get back to me when they are consistent and objective in enforcing those rules...which will be never!

exactly!!!!!!

BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!

 

 

I was banned a few times from OLM and it was never for any of the above. It was ALWAYS for questioning a sources products. Any time their products came into question the nut hugging motherfuckers would come out of the wood work to bash me. People over there are scared shitless to even say anything when a source rips them off thats why its becoming a safe haven for scamers. We all know some of the top sources who have golden for years can suddenly turn selective scamer. To not be able to post this kind of info openly is to invite every low life to start ripping people off.

 

Another thing I seen a thread over here the other day where the nut huggers started attacking someone. Listen, I don't give a fuck what board the source is on, if he is ripping people off we need to know about it. If he stops communicating and goes MIA we need to know about it. Need I mention Trojanman? Right there is a case example of what I'm talking about. When he first went missing and some posted their concern they were bashed quickly. Some people may have been able to save some $$$ if they had known a few days in advance. Or at the very least stayed safe.

 

 

I personally think anyone caught using the "Walmart analogy" or anything like it should be banned from this board.

This is so true. So fucking true. I got banned for calling out ghpro and freeman who ripped me off. I contacted mod and was ignored. When I saw the way things were going I warned members that he is showing all the signs of going bad. Sending bunk, disappearing from the scene several times leaving people hanging always with the typical excuses: family problems, corrupt employee... and sure enough when enough orders were queued up and cash on hand he disappears. He even own Nordic a few thousands.

Got banned again from OLM for another 2 weeks. Someone started a thread about superman labs. His pack got seized once before it even got off the ground in China. They resent his order and it got taken by US customs, so Pep told him, sorry your loss.

 

Several people commented on the thread and some said some bad things about pep, chen, etc and his attitude.

 

His policy is to re-ship once. This I understand, but he counted the pack being taken by China as his one reship.

 

The only thing I said on the thread was that I don't believe that should count, and it should be up to him to get the pack off the ground from his own Country. It was just my opinion. That's all I said in the thread.

 

The rest of this post was not mentioned at all. Plus there is no record of seizures from China. Tracking was issued but it showed no record of being received, so Chen said it was seized by Chinese customs.

 

Nobody can prove it, and a lot of his packs are supposedly being taken by Chinese customs these days. It would be real easy for him to make this claim for packs going to certain areas that are more likely to be seized by US customs. That way he doesn't have to honor it because it was already taken once by China...according to him.

 

Maybe China is really taking those packs. Then Pep needs to change up his shit because China has figured him out, plus that increases the chance of packs being flagged for US Customs to deal with and controlled deliveries.

 

I know someone recently who ordered from him and was issued a tracking number. No record of it showed up and after a week he said it was seized by Chinese Customs. He sent the guy another pack with the same tracking number. The pack made it without a problem, but can somebody tell me how a pack gets seized and then gets sent with same tracking as on that was seized?

 

I don't see how it is possible, and if it is, wouldn't that pack have a giant red flag on it? Not exactly safe and secure....unless I'm missing something. Seems he's getting sloppy if his packs are getting tagged by China a lot.

 

Obviously, the mods at OLM are still getting their dicks sucked by Pep. You can mention his products and him as a source all you want if it is a glowing review, but say anything else and thread is deleted and you are banned.

 

Personally, I won't be ordering from him again until he can figure out how to get his packs out of China.

I just read the thread. NOw I know why I don't go there anymore. The amount of ass kissing and ball hugging of sources and admin banning is disgusting. And of course the Walmart analogy rear it's ugly head again. Is that ever gong to get old?

I like Pep's products but he's a bitch to deal with. I ordered 8 kits of Red Tops ad when I got nothing after 2 weeks (it usually comes within a week) he told me to just be patient and that seizures are very rare. I don't know lately I've been reading and hearing about a lot of seizures esp on the West Coast where I am. Several of my friends were getting shit snagged in Cali. After another two weeks and still nothing and now I'm getting concerned about gh being in transit for over a month. He just said don't worry about it. It'll get there and it will still be good. I wonder if he'll use gh sitting out who knows where for over a month. Finally after six weeks I get the pack. I notice it had been open and rewrapped in the dreaded Customs green tape. I half way opened it and noticed contents were confiscated. Also it came with a letter indicating the seizure. After sending pics of the letter it was still a hassle because he said the tracking # indicated pack was refuse. Kept going back and forth explaining to him why I refused the pack. I had to resend the letter a total of 3 times. Also, I didn't want him to resend intl again but domestic and I would pay the difference. He said no. Figuring he didn't want to deal with the payment hassle I said that if he resent domestic he only had to send 6 kits that would have matched what I had paid originally. Again he said no. I ordered intl and he'll only resend intl. That didn't make sense. Why risk another seizure? It just didn't make sense why he was being so stubborn. He never really explained why but just kept saying you ordered intl so resend only intl. Finally I had to send to someone I know from the boards but never met who lives back East to receive for me and then resend to me but it cost me 2 kits for his troubles. So in the end I got six kits but man it was a hassle.

Pep is great when things go as planned but when there's trouble there's trouble. He's been in the game forever and is a real pro but Feds are getting smarter and his stuff is getting snagged. And heaven help you if you bad mouth him.

If he knows you alin...but I don't recommend that cause he will scam you....for those that actually have the his personal cell phone number you know what I'm talking about..

 

I have seen good results from a lot of UGL's lately...but a few

I suspect my friends were sold deca instead of EQ....have a couple

of buds running peps new line of EQ and they love it..and one of them has probably tried more ugl labs than I have ever heard of

 

Again though..don't want people to get the wrong idea about my post..FUCK ALIN lol

x2 on Alin.

And instead of reading "seen good results" when are we going to read "felt good results."

The dark side anxiously awaits your return.

Im running strangos and loving it

All his gear is liquid Gold. Even pros trust his gear. Bummed that I missed him this time around. Hope hes back up and running soon.