wutang

Send them to Jano, he can tell you what they mean and he is much younger; so he may be actually able to see them. He is quite friendly and loves to talk and explain this stuff. You can tell him I recommended you as he is a friend.

I've posted this on other boards and it comes out way better and easier to read. I have gone to Jano in the past and he is beyond accommodating and really goes out of his way. When I come across such a rare breed I take special care not to take advantage. I probably

will end up going to him but wanted to try other sources first. Jano is like a Hattori Hanzo Katana sword that you only want to take out for special missions.

At this point it doesn't even really matter how good they are, ordering from him is crazy at this point. If your looking for good generics TP has the blacks and mauves. His service isn't great, but you will get what you ordered. The supertropin guys have the standard grey tops, and they sell them as supertropin. Their service is outstanding, and you get a free vial of tb500 or igf1 lr3 with each kit. I haven't tried the igf, but I plan on it after I get a kit or two to go with the few free vials I have.

This thread has nothing to do with ordering gh, finding a source or using an existing source. I just want to know if anybody knows how to

read lab reports. I just assumed it would be common knowledge for the more experience ones because the mass specs are considered the Gold Standard and then one most valued. It seems odd that these reports are such in demand when so few even know how to read and interpret them.

Only real reason I see most people taking days off is for the purpose of saving money. I see no reason to, others might disagree. Some weeks I will inadvertently take a day off just because I forgot to take my morning dose, so I will just take the day off.

The only reason I've heard to take a day or two off HGH is to give your body a rest. To give it a break. I'm not sure how much sense makes. I mean, one of the reasons that we age is that our body starts to lose the ability to repair and recover. I remember on a PBS show one of the definitions of aging is your body losing the ability to repair itself. And part of the reason is that HGH production goes down. They described it as when you are young you produce so much HGH that your body "over repairs" itself and you start to grow, then it tapers off and you maintain, and then it diminishes to almost nothing and, well, you start falling apart.

So, in a sense, at least to me, it's like taking a day off from HGH to give your body a rest is like taking a day off of resting. Since for most people you produce HGH while sleeping then you should take a day or two off sleeping to give your body a rest/break?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Yes, hghpro Puretropin. The attachment feature on this site sucks. I have to use a magnifying glass to read it.

Nobody. I thought we had a few gh experts on board.

Wutang is legit. Anyone claiming he's a scammer, can come through me too.

 

Tell hghpro to get back on here, I'll fuck his ass up.

Thanks. I'm still waiting for him to live up to his end of the deal. It should all be so simple. You sell x for y. When everybody holds up their end of any bargain there's never a problem. Nobody except for possible about one or two initial customers, nobody has had a good experience with HGHpro. He doesn't do what he says he will do on a consistent basis. It's as simple as that.

When prepping I do 1.6 1st thing in the am and 1.6 iu before bed. Not prepping I do 1.6 in the am. Now in the bodybuilding lifestyle I got the hook up on pharmacy pharmacy Gh. When I took generics I did 6 iu split up and 3 when not prepping. And, M-f is my protocol and all my bodybuilding friends and coaches advice too. Good luck. I love it

You actually feel and get an effect on a 1.6 dose? What kind of gh are you using?

Also, does anyone know how to blow these up and repost them so they are easier to read.

This was done on the Puretropins. Obviously, the last one is pretty self-explanatory but can someone break down the first three? A lot of gh drama going on recently and it would do all of us well to educate ourselves.

Not sure if your a member @ Meso(the mecca of calling out scammers) but that POS hghpro is calling you out as a reverse scammer buddy

Wish you PMed me because I tend to just focus of threads that I am involved in. I would have completely missed this if someone hadn't called my attention to it. I did read the accusation on the MesoRX board and, as would be expected, there is a bit more to the story. I tried to be as detailed as possible so I'll just copy/paste what I wrote there, but if there are any questions or concerns please by all means state them here so I can address them. This is my reply.

Oh really? Lets tell the whole story.

When you first came on the board you were trying to drum up business. You were offering some great deals. I was suspicious but also felt you were treated undo harshly. No one at AB wanted to give you a chance. It made sense to me that you would want to offer some great deals just to prove you really had access to real gh and earn a reputation. Still I was leery.

The deal offered was 10 150iu kits for $1,000 delivered domestically. You did make it clear that they were not currently in stock domestically but would be shipped to a remailer and then remailed domestically. You seemed sincere in our discussions but I was still suspicious. We came to a compromise in which I will pay half and then after receiving product I would pay the other half. I also requested that instead of 10 kits I would like to purchase 11 kits as I wanted to divided them up with a couple of others to get their feedback as an igf test would take about a month. So we agreed on a deal: 11 150iu kits delivered domestically via a remailer for $1,100, and I would pay half and then pay the other half upon receipt of the products. A deal you claimed was going to be unique for me and it is going against your common practice but you are doing it as a show of good faith. Your current claim now that you have fronted products to such an extent that it has put you in debt is a lie. There is no one else you can mention by name that you fronted anything to. And since you mentioned mine there is no reason why you wouldn't mention others.

To say that the transaction went somewhat less than smoothly would be a huge understatement. Even trying to wire money there were fuck ups and horrible communications. But I did manage to wire $600 with $500 due upon receipt. I especially hated that you would never get back to me unless I continually hounded you to get a response. Dealing with you has been the most frustrating and infuriating experience I have ever had with a source. And I've been around since the 1990s.

I got an email from you that my order had been seized but you had 100iu kits ready to ship domestically. I told you that would be fine as long as I was compensated to equal the 150iu kits we agreed to. By my math, 11 150iu kits would equal 1,650 ius. I would accept 16 100iu kits (1,600ius) and you can keep the extra 50ius (half a kit) as a tip for just getting this over with. A good supplier would spot me the extra half kit and send me 17 100iu kit just to compensate for all the bullshit I had to put up with. But that would be expecting too much. I just wanted to get this over and done with and never deal with you again.

I won't go into the details and all the bullshit but I finally did get an email from you with a tracking number asking for the rest of the money. I told you I would send it to you when I receive the products as we clearly agreed to. I wasn't going to just go by the tracker as my trust in you was diminishing rapidly.

Well, "surprisingly" I wasn't compensated for the extra kits that I had originally agreed to and that you had willingly offered and advertised. I got 11 100iu kits. I wrote you back and said that I was still owed an additional 500ius. 11 150iu kits (1,650ius) ordered - 11 100iu kits (1,100ius) received = 500ius balance due. You keeping the change (50ius).

You then sent me an email saying that those were 120iu kits and not 100iu. I sent you a picture of the kit showing clearing they were 100iu and suggesting that you need to fire this new remailer that just replace previously fired remailer fuck up. Or at least the one you blame for all your problems (which I am beginning to doubt). And you just ignored the whole issue of me not receiving the full order we had agreed to so whether it was 12ius or 10ius still leaves me short. But it was 10ius as I said. I don't care what your remialer told you. Pictures don't lie.

Now you are claiming I am a reverse scammer and the $500 balance not yet paid (due to not receiving full order agreed to) has damage your international operation to such an extent that you cannot fill current orders until you get funds from new orders.

To tell you the truth, because I'm such a trusting and nice guy and only like to see the good in people, I am not totally convinced that you originally intended to be a scammer and really wanted to get a legit business going. I don't know MG/Kaluto so I just go by my own judgement which obviously wasn't a 100% because I have been around. That's the reason why I didn't want to go in with you full on but wanted some insurance in case I was fucked and didn't want to lose everything. But I am convinced that you are just a total fuck up and have no business being in this business. You may not intend to be dishonest but if it comes to you losing money or your customers, it's going to be your customers that are going to be fucked.

Anybody that orders from you at this point is a total moron and deserved to be scammed. I've never said that before and never thought I will but it can't be more obvious.

Time to close up shop. If you want to give it another go, which I am sure you will, and we will be watching out for you, make sure you have everything you want to sell bought and paid for and ready to go, which I doubt will happen.

Looks like 100iu kits to me. I may not have the finaly tuned spidey-man sense of muscle96 but at least had enough so I didn't get completely screwed. It seems like nobody has had a good experience dealing with you. Not a single completely satisfied customer.

Just stop already.

Fina is not in 5mg. Thats dutasteride and it is covered by insurance. I had no problem getting a doc to prescribe me duta at 5mg and cut the pills in half with a pill spliiter. That was when i gave a fuck. Not so much now.

Pretty sure it's finasteride at 5mg/tab.

Holy shit! 5mg fina? Will that aid in a fuller scalp of locks over 1mg? I’m not worried about sex drive issues for obvious reasons but maybe could bump dose to 2.5mg daily?

Yes, for hair it's 1mg but it's not covered by insurance. It is covered if it is prescribed for prostrate which is common for those on TRT. So I get the 5mg dose but only use about 2-3 tabs/wk so I accumulate extras after a while

This is what I have now. All from CVS Pharmacy. Email me asap at [email protected]. It's first come first serve.

Payment through paypal

exemestane (aromasin) 30 tabs 25mg..........$85ea

anastrozole (arimidex) 30 tabs 1mg.............$75ea

bromocriptine 30 tabs 2.5mg.......................$20ea

liothyronine (t3) 90 tabs 25mcg...................$85ea

levothyroxine (t4) 30 tabs 200mcg...............$30ea

Finasteride 30 tabs 5mg..............................$25ea

Lisinopril 30 tabs 10mg...............................$25ea

Shipping...................................................$10

This is what I have now. All from CVS Pharmacy. Email me asap at [email protected]. It's first come first serve.

Payment through paypal

exemestane (aromasin) 30 tabs 25mg..........$85ea

anastrozole (arimidex) 30 tabs 1mg.............$70ea

bromocriptine 30 tabs 2.5mg.......................$20ea

liothyronine (t3) 90 tabs 25mcg...................$85ea

levothyroxine (t4) 30 tabs 200mcg...............$30ea

Finasteride 30 tabs 5mg..............................$25ea

Lisinopril 30 tabs 10mg...............................$25ea

Shipping...................................................$10ea

I don’t know how you feel about modern bodybuilding but all I know is that if it’s IGf1 that’s causing this massive growth out of Kuwait it makes me wonder what these guys are doing in exchange for such an opportunity.

I don't know what bbers do that make them attractive to a sponsor. None of my business. But I know in this day and age people think every pro bodybuilder is sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass. That whole aspect of the sport is not something that preoccupies my mind. I do know that on the various boards I am on people seem very preoccupied with homosexuality. Every time a picture is posted someone will make a gay comment. There was a pic, one of me favs, of the Mentzer brothers that I posted and, of course, someone insisted that they had a homosexual relationship. They look at a pic of two brothers who were world class bbers and the first thought that comes to their mind was imagining them fucking each other. Seems to be more of a statement on the viewer than the Mentzers.

As i know, all of the 80% peptides are from China, If you need the great price, i suggest that you can buy some from China.

Great first post. Brilliant insight. Cheap stuff from China. Who knew?

Now $400 and $2500 is a big diffference, my friend. Thanks NC.

 

And you're right dumbbellpress, i CAN afford the 2 grand, but i WONT be able to buy groceries or eat for that month LOL.

 

And I agree with wutang as well, that I homebrew to save money. Obviously at first, it seemed like A LOT of work, but after brewing it yourself, its easy. ANd i too think tren is eaasy to tell if its fake or not, as well as test. I was on 800mg of tren e from international anabolics over at OLM. I felt NOTHING exceot for some light acne and very very mild sweating, but the acne could have been from th e other stff i was running or even fro m just injecting so much oil. I recently started on 100mg of tren ace EOD and after 4-5 days i was sweating for no reason at all, today is my 3rd shot. The source on OLM said i used tren too much and my "tren receptors needed a break". I NEVER heard of that one, all his stuff was underdosed and or bunk. The only thing that did work or give me rapid heartbeating and a warm flush feeling was the helios. I tried his tren suspension, TNE base, methyl tren which is supposed to be VERY strong and NOTGHING, I was better off drinking coffee before my workout than injecting that garbage. But hey, you live and you learn and you find out who you can trust and who is in it for money only, etc.

"Your Tren receptors" lol! Name this fool so others don't make the same mistake.

One of the reasons people home brew, at least it was for me when I did it, was to save money. No way I would consider buying that kind of equipment unless I was sourcing. Fortunately both Test and Tren are easy to test. A blood test will tell you what a certain dose will put you levels at. I knew what my natural levels were, and they were low, so when I went on 200mg/wk of my home brew and it went up just over a thousand I knew the Test was good. With Tren Ace, at least for me and I believe for the majority, the sides are pretty immediate on a dose of 400mg/wk or more. Once those night sweats kick in I know it was Tren. Of course the physical transformation was there but so many other factors are in play when you go just by looks. Still, it's reassuring. Tren is such a powerful compound that you know if it's real or not.

So, if I got good Test and good Tren I figure, though of course it's not 100%, the rest is good. I've just written off var and primo. If it was subbed with winstrol or EQ I doubt I could tell so it's not worth the risk considering the expense.

Go to California. There are plenty of faggot "schmoe" doctors handing out scripts for pharmacy grade gear. It is everywhere, along with human HGH from aids patients. I know a guy in southern Cali who has scripts for 500mg "HRT" test cyp a week, no shit. Not to mention all the "Compounding Pharmacies" cranking out all kinds of odd ball steroids for "human use". Saw some Test Enth 400 last week from a legit compounding pharmacy in TN(another breeding ground for good steroid connections).

Now if the doc can only up that to 5,000mg/wk and not end up in jail then we're talking. I wonder if he is able to throw in a side of increlex for good measure.

If you have kids amd a wife or a gf, its a very lonely life. If eating food and injecting drugs all day floats yoir boat then have at it. At least pro bbers here spend time with their loved ones even during prep and still whoop anything that comes from kuwait. And its gonna be no different this year

What makes you think they don't spend time with their family? Check out Curry's instagram. And modern pro bodybuilders are notorious for having an inability to be in a close, fulfilling long term relationships. It's such a selfish, corrupting, self-absorbed, narcissistic endeavor. I use to think maybe Jay was an exception because he seemed the most normal and balanced of the top guys. To be a pro you are not a normal balance person.

They don't even have women in the gyms over there. Chasing PUSSY is damn near illegal, fuck going to Kuwait!

LMAO! Don't fool yourself. There's rules for the masses and rules for the elite. Back when Jiu-Jitsu was big in Abu Dhabi those guys were treated like kings. They had this large dining room with every time of buffet you can imagine from all over the world. And the buffet didn't just include food. There were lines of women you could choose from. If nothing there suited your liking you could make a special request. My friend said that's when he learned the true meaning of living like kings.

fuck kuwait. There's nothing special there. What do they have that we dont?all the coaches that go there and come back say the same shit, they steal diet and training info from our guys and copy that. The only thing they got that most dont here is they are 100% focused. There entire day revolves around training, sleeping, eating and pinning. Sounds like a great existance :rolleyes:

 

the only props I will give them is the oxygen gym is top notch. But even with the best equipment, you're working next to some skinny middle eastern faggot. I'll take any hardcore gym across america over the oxygen gym

And that's the difference. A big difference. And if you love bbing, and I assume they do since they wanted to make it their life, it's living the dream. Compare that to the lives most people live. Everyday going to the same job day after day dealing with a-holes and women bosses. When you count getting ready in the morning, travel time, work day, travel back home -- you're looking at 10-12 hour days. Your whole life revolves around your job that you would quit in a nanosecond if you won the lottery. And then, after all that, you have to drag your ass to the gym and try to muster the energy to get through a half way decent workout.

And don't think they are spending all their time in the gym. You can only workout for so long. Three hours in the gym is very long and I doubt they are in the gym for that long. But, say they are? Three to fours hours a day? That still leaves a lot of free time to enjoy life living off the billionaire Arabs schmoes money.

And, another thing, they are not locked in there like most people are locked in their shitty jobs. They travel back to their homes whenever they want. And they are not going to be pro bodybuilders forever. Their time is now and they want to make the most of a relatively short career.

Arms are so big they look fake! Lol

 

 

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Not at all. It doesn't have that smooth, puffy look of synthol. Just looks hard and dense Coleman style.

Kuwait is the place to be to mutate.

Years ago back when I first tried my hand at homebrewing before I had a reliable raw source, I got some tren e raw one time that was so dark I thought it was a little odd. I made it up anyways and the shit literally turned black once the solvents and a little bit of heat were added to it. Seriously looked like motor oil. After quite a bit of research in the manufacturing of these raws, I'm pretty positive that is was oxidation during the manufacturing process. At least it was the only thing that made sense. I spoke with manufacturers after that, that confirmed my suspicions.

 

A lot of these raw manufacturers could give a shit how they produce raws, because they know the majority of them are for export to countries they could give two shits about.

Does oxidation have any effect on the quality or efficacy on the hormone?