BlackinkDB

13 hours ago, twigs said:

That article has nothing to do with exogenous GH. It also shows nothing you're claiming. It just claimed gaba raised naturally occuring levels. Gaba will not increase exogenous GH, it doesnt work that way. The gaba isnt making the difference your thinking it is, its a placebo affect.

I’m not saying you’re wrong...Effects specific to exogenous I clearly have missed... that said while placebo is garbage and we both know it what I should do is get blood tests without using GABA and then using GABA. If there’s a difference it might be worth looking into further wouldn’t you agree?

another GABA related study that has contradictory info: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael_Powers3/publication/232279935_GABA_Supplementation_and_Growth_Hormone_Response/links/57a3a14108aefe6167a74596/GABA-Supplementation-and-Growth-Hormone-Response.pdf?origin=publication_detail

On 7/28/2020 at 9:15 PM, geogroup said:

Wally isn't setting you up, partner. He wouldn't ask you a loaded question like that.

I appreciate that friend. This board isn’t as active as the one I’m on.  

So you’re running the ipamorellin to offset the cost of the HGH. You’re going to be disappointed unfortunately.  Can I make another suggestion?  Supplement with GABA powder. 
 

GABA powder taken alongside growth hormone shows that it nearly doubles if not triples irGH and ifGH levels directly after administration.  Crazy right? I found the study and just about fell out of my seat.  I’m running a shit ton more growth than you (6iu a day or 12EOD) and am noticing a huge difference when supplementing with as little as 3grams a day (1tsp in water)

here’s the blurb then I’ll link the study:

At rest, GABA ingestion elevated both irGH and ifGH compared with placebo. Specifically, peak concentrations of both hormones were elevated by about 400%, and the area under the curve (AUC) was elevated by about 375% (P < 0.05). Resistance exercise (EX-P) elevated time-point (15-60 min) irGH and ifGH concentrations compared with rest (P < 0.05). The combination of GABA and resistance exercise (EX-GABA) also elevated the peak, AUC, and the 15- to 60-min time-point irGH and ifGH responses compared with resting conditions (P < 0.05). Additionally, 200% greater irGH (P < 0.01) and 175% greater ifGH (P < 0.05) concentrations were observed in the EX-GABA than in the EX-P condition, 30 min after ingestion. GABA ingestion did not alter the irGH to ifGH ratio, and, under all conditions, ifGH represented approximately 50% of irGH.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18091016/

Good luck and hope this helps. 

12 hours ago, wallyd said:

Those are some pretty impressive stats. Welcome to AB. Can you share the other board name that you visit?

If the mods allow it I’d be happy to 

If the mods allow it, I’d be happy to. 

I come from another forum of like minded steroid users, the ones that actually contribute ... and don’t look like DYELers.  
 

I’ve done a handful of shows both natural and now not natural placing top 3 when I actually dial it all in.  Having a HUGE desire to push my body into freak mode I hired a coach during the pandemic and with a shit ton of food and beating the log book better than some of you beat your peckers, I’m moving that direction like the old man turtle I am.  
 

6’1 263 around 14-16% bf. 
Currently running

1g test

600 NPP 

12ius HGH EOD

thanks for reading my first post.  I hope to mix it up with some of you meat heads later. 
 

blackinkDb 

the DB stands for duchebag