lilhawk

Yeah, this used to happen to me all the time. It would make me wake up coughing and gagging. I then later found out I had sleep apnea, and this reflux is a common sign of sleep apnea. Just something to think about, not saying that is what is causing your issue, but it is a possibility.

As long as it has been refrigerated it should be completely fine as far as potency goes, until at least the expiration date, and probably a bit past it. If they have a script for it, and its from a USA pharmacy, then it should be on par with any other brand of USA made GH as far as quality.

Just because one gets side effects from GH does not mean its legit. It could possibly mean there is something in it such as filler, or impurity, or something else that is causing the side effects. Some of the numbness and tingling, pain, etc off just a small dose of 2-4iu with generics seems a little out of proportion. I rarely ever get anything in the way of side effects such as numbness, tingling, water retention, etc. from Humatrope, Serostim, etc. I do realize everyone is different as well. Now generics are a different story. I do experience numbness, tingling, some bloat, etc. from all of them. The old Thanks gave me some of the worst pain in my forearms I've ever experienced. Rips gave tingling and way too much water retention. I'm not bashing generics, Greys and Meditropes seemed to be good, and I really didn't have much in the way of side effects with those, other than the Meditropes caused some water retention, most generic GH is pure junk unless you're getting Greys or Meditropes. Outside of those 2 I wouldn't even bother with anything other than pharm GH. There are other indicators that you're GH is good other than side effects though, and that's what guys should be looking for rather than gauging how good it is by side effects experienced. GH is probably the only drug I've seen that has its quality gauged by side effects so much.

I can't argue this fact at all brother lol. Thank you for the insight and the help.

You're welcome man. Serostim is excellent stuff as well so I just figure can't go wrong with that. Enjoy the Seros man.

Yeah I would stick with Serostim to be sure. I've heard they sell lower dosed Humatrope pens as the 72iu pens, also heard they're just counterfeited with peptides or low quality generics. Even if they would happen to be legit, its impossible to tell if they have been stored in a refrigerator. Good thing about Serostim is you really don't have to worry about how they were stored before reconstitution.

I’ve used the American Humatrope 72iu pens. The boxes had the script ripped off, and were straight from US pharmacy. I’d never touch anything from overseas as far as Humatrope or really any other pharma GH. Especially from Turkey. Tons of fakes. The fakes look almost identical to the authentic product.

What about Bitcoin ATM's if there is one nearby. Seems like they would be easy to use.

Geo is a very solid guy, as good as they come.

It's a longest acting nandrolone correct?

Yep, long acting nandrolone. Nandrolone Laureate I believe was the chemical name. It was good stuff back in the day. Brovel sold a 50ml, or maybe it was a 30ml bottle called Norandren 50, which was 50mg of Deca per ml. That and Brovel Testosterona 200 was my first cycle.

Yep. Norandren 50 by Brovel as well.

Isnt it way harder to go hypo with stuff like lantus? If so why wouldnt slow acting insulin be otc an fast acting be prescription only

Technically fast acting insulin(Humalog) is prescription only. Humulin R you can get without a script. Some consider it easier to go hypo with Lantus, even though it doesn't have a peak, it is active for 18-24 hours, so diet must be scheduled better with it.

All the tabs I have gotten from him the last year or so say APL on them as well. I got tabs from another source that resold K's tabs and they said ALP correctly on them.

I agree it’s wrong to sell it if the kid needs it, which if it’s scripted they do. In the case with the ones I had, the kid had a checkup and lab work, which was routine. The doctor ended the script as the kid no longer needed it. So the rest was not going to be used. If the kid still needs it, then that’s fucked up to be getting rid of it.

That's exactly the case. He gets them for his child and he has 10 extra right now. He was asking me if he could get 300.00 a pen. I didn't think that was too bad.

$300 per pen? Thats outrageous. There's only 30iu per pen, so that comes out to $10 per iu. Pharm GH is obviously more expensive than generics, but paying $10 per iu is crazy, especially since he got them much, much cheaper as I'm sure he has insurance that he got them with. I've had those exact same pens before, it was the exact same situation, as the guy had 10 left over pens, insurance paid for them, and he offered them for $100 per pen. So $3.33 per iu. Thats insanely cheap for those, but the $10 per iu he is thinking is crazy.

The pens are excellent, assuming you have an authentic product. The 10mg pens have 30iu of GH in them, and those can be quite expensive. Unless you find someone who doesn't train, possibly had the pens for a condition that maybe a child of theirs had, and is looking to get rid of the extra pens without a clue what they go for. Otherwise, I would expect you're going to pay a premium for those.

Great first post

Actually I cook it, then put it in the fridge overnight. In the morning I get it out and make my shakes for the day. Usually take 2 of them to work with me as they are easy and quick to consume.

I use it in shakes as well. Usually 2 servings of it, a carton of liquid egg whites, splenda and cinnamon along with some ice. Tastes good.

Echocardiogram is needed for that. EKG will tell if the heart is in a normal rhythm, but echo will detail the size of different chambers of the heart, valve function, and ejection fraction.

In the federal system you’re indicted where the crime occurred. If someone was caught with a pill press and got probation then he sang like a bird. The pill press would have gotten a manufacturing charge, and then whatever else he was charged with. I know the guy that was Brinkmann and he got 46 months.

im sure they got good shit..I would just rather know 100% im shooting hgh

I understand where you're coming from.. you should give them a shot, you won't be disappointed, and won't notice a difference between them and Seros.

It can be a concern using BP meds and Viagra, Cialis, etc. together, but the main concern is using any PDE inhibitor with Nitro for chest pain. That can, and will cause dangerous drops in blood pressure.

Used Lisinopril 3 years ago when Defiant's Test Enan 1250mg/week / EQ 720mg/week / Tren Enan 600mg/week / Oral Winny 100mg/day was giving me significant HTN. First time in my life I had ever had clinical HTN. Doc put me on Lisinopril/ small dose Beta Blocker (40 mg Propranolol twice per day). I knew going in I might get the horrendous ACE Inhibitor cough....was hoping I would not get it......but I took the Lisinopril for as long as I could tolerate it until the ACE Inh. Cough just wore me out.....I coughed non-stop, 24 hours per day for about 4 weeks until I said to hell with it. He switched me over to an A II RB - LOsartan and it did a phenomenal job, and of course no cough.

 

If Lisinopril is causing you the notorious terrible cough Superbane....I highly recommend switching to an Angiotensin II Receptor Blocker like Losartan or Valsartan. I have never heard of anyone getting the cough from an AIIRB.

Good advice. I use losartan and have had zero issues with it.

gh is a lifestyle.U dont cycle it..My experienced hgh bros stay on it for years.I would only use the human grade kind.

I used to say the same thing as you, and would only use Serostim, or any other pharm grade GH that was available. Until I used the Grey Tops. They are excellent, and I notice no difference between them and Seros. Grey tops and black tops from PD are the only GH I would use other than pharm grade. I wouldn't trust anything else.

Just like that uh?

 

 

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Yes. Been running it for years straight. I get bloods done every 3 months, and everything is great. I do skip days here and there, but never more than a day or two here and there.